Matt Parsons wrote:Well it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it's kind of retarded when you show it to other people and let them laugh at it, but then can't offer any other explanation as to why you hold that opinion.
First, I had never heard it before when I showed it to everyone. Alex told me that his vocals had improved a lot, and I wanted to hear it. It's always a pleasure to hear good, new metal, especially from my home town. I didn't say, "Check out this shitty band, and their shitty singer!!" I simply said, "Hey listen to this new local band." The reaction speaks for itself. By the way, most of the people at the party were fans of power metal more so than death or black metal.
You guys can listen to whatever you want to, but my band is catering to fans of traditional metal. It wouldn't make any sense for you, your band, or any other "extreme metal" fans to like the vocals because they're a completely different style.
You need to understand that I like a LOT of metal. Hell, two of my favorite bands are Into Eternity and Judas Priest, both of which have virtuoso vocalists. When I listen to extreme metal, its more for the drums and guitars than vocals. When I want to hear excellent vocals, I turn to Kamelot, Iron Maiden, Angra, Mercenary, Strapping Young Lad, etc.
It doesn't bother us at all that you don't like them, I just wanted some kind of reason as to why you feel the need to get on the damn internet and talk a bunch of shit about it.
Maybe because you posted them up on the internet on a public message board? It isn't that I don't like them, its that they aren't good. I don't like Hammerfall's vocals, but I know that they are good vocals. I don't like Dream Theater's vocals, but I know that they're good. Etc.
Well I’d just like to step in and basically reiterate what Cameron said, I don’t give a flying shit what any death metal, or whatever its called now, (I don’t really follow all the genres they get to be ridiculous) say about my vocals, it is a very different style,
lulz I'm a death metal
I know my vocals are far from perfect as of yet, they are very much a work in progress, as is any instrument that's just being learned, I sure as hell didn’t just pick up a guitar and know how to play it well when I had just started, same with this.
Ok, I understand exactly where you're coming from. The difference is, when you sucked at guitar, you didn't post it up on the internet for the whole world to see. And, if you had, people would have said, "This is shitty guitar playing." And they would have been right.
Likewise, NO ONE cares that you've only been singing for so long and don't have it mastered. They don't want to hear your voice until its good. Until then, if you keep recording crappy vocals, people are going to completely dismiss your band, and will associate you with shitty vocals, completely tainting any future bands you're in. Don't do that to yourself.
That being said i remember that i taught myself how to "scream" in a matter of days though. In my opinion screaming is not an instrument, and it destroys any of the musical qualities death metal possesses, screaming vocals aren't pitched, so it seems reminiscent of having a non pitched percussion instrument out front playing the "melody." And you can't tell me it has to do with lyrics, because you can't understand the lyrics in any screaming vocals (possibly aside from Chuck Schuldiner from Death). Its not musical and therefore not my thing, but I don’t get on the internet and talk about how awful every "dirty" vocalist is, even though its much easier to distort your voice until it sounds "heavy," than to have to work on actual vocal ideas like vibrato, intonation, range, dictation, etc.
You learned to scream in a matter of days? That explains why your scream is completely weak sounding. So if it is so unmusical, why do you use it in your music?
What do you think Devin Townsend would say about that? He's probably one of the most talented musicians in metal today, and his vocals range from soft singing to balls out screams. His screams are definitely pitched, definitely have vibrato, and definitely are understandable.
Just because a lot of people suck at screaming, does not mean that all screaming sucks.
Let me reiterate my purpose with this: I'm not trying to make you feel like shit. I'm not trying to say, "Fuck you Justin Jackson and your shitty vocals!!" I'm saying, "That sounds bad, and you shouldn't do it".
It really detracts from your music, which is otherwise pretty solid.
