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Post by Blarg! » Thu October 18th, 2007, 5:38 pm

Under-21 crowd shut out


By ERIC STIRGUS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 10/18/07

The days of nightclubs hosting "18 to party, 21 to drink" events may soon come to an end in Atlanta.

The Atlanta City Council unanimously passed an ordinance Monday prohibiting anyone younger than 21 from entering or working at businesses where alcohol is consumed. It should go into effect next week.

Councilwoman Cleta Winslow, who wrote the ordinance, said she is troubled by the city's law that allowed 18-year-olds to work in businesses where people are drinking. It does not affect restaurants where alcohol is served, nor supermarkets or convenience stores.

Winslow worries about teenagers drinking in strip clubs or bars and endangering themselves.

"Since a person under 21 can't drink in a nightclub, they should not be in these establishments," said Winslow, chairwoman of the council's public safety committee.

Greg Pridgeon, chief of staff to Mayor Shirley Franklin, said she would not veto the ordinance. Pridgeon said Franklin was concerned that the old rules allowed teenagers to drink and harm themselves or others.

"It seemed a little inconsistent you had people [under 21] working in these establishments and people who were patrons having to show ID to get in," Pridgeon said.

Winslow said teenagers working in strip clubs are more likely to fall into prostitution or taking drugs.

"We need to help our young ladies feel like they have some self-worth," said Winslow, 55, who said she worked three part-time jobs while in college. "We need to be more about protecting our young people. Even at 18 because the mind is not as mature at that level."

Pete Carver, an employee at the House Nightclub in Underground Atlanta, disagreed with Winslow's thinking.

"A lot of 25-year-olds act like they're still in high school," said Carver, 31.

Carver described the ordinance as the latest attempt by local government to "micromanage" the area's nightlife. DeKalb County commissioners are considering rolling back last call on most days from 3:55 a.m. to 2 a.m. After a string of fatal shootings in the Buckhead party district, the Atlanta City Council in 2003 ordered bars to stop serving alcohol at 2:30 a.m. and to close their doors at 3 a.m.

Although the House Nightclub does not permit anyone in under 21, Carver said decisions about age limits should be left to business owners.

"The city can't make the best judgment for every individual nightclub," he said.

At Goosebumps, a strip club in downtown Atlanta, the management said it would comply with the ordinance, although it has some dancers younger than 21. The club requires dancers older than 21 to wear plastic wristbands to prevent anyone younger from being served alcohol.




..I really hope this backfires like hell

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Post by BlackRoija » Thu October 18th, 2007, 6:40 pm

Here goes the fucking shithole south imposing its self-righteous moral code on everyone else again.

I doubt this will even change anything. Laws may be passed, but the people themselves decide if they are obeyed or not.

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Post by BoB » Thu October 18th, 2007, 9:16 pm

the Metroplex got around just such crap back in the 80s. Technically it was two clubs seperated by a wall of chicken wire - one served booze the other didn't. A common stage was in front of both "clubs".

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Post by BlackRoija » Thu October 18th, 2007, 9:35 pm

That sounds like what the places here would do.

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Post by MikeLindgren » Mon October 22nd, 2007, 7:57 pm

Fuck that cunt! If you're 18 vote that shithead fascist bitch out of office. If you're 18, you're old enough to vote and die for your country, but not old enough to see some titties or take a shot? Self-righteous pricks.

My little payback goes like this:

It's Sunday, and I want beer. I take a couple of six packs of A&W and swap 'em out with some brewskies. Just replace the A&W bottles with your ale of choice. Hit up the self-checkout, and out the door you go. No more Saturday night last-minute sauce runs. That and beer's always on sale when it's "the lord's day" A sixer usually never runs me more than $3.00 which is a marvelous bargain. You don't have to believe this trick works but if you feel ballsy, trust me it does. Just make sure if you're getting 12oz bottles of root beer you replace it with 12oz bottles of booze or you're up shit's creek. I've been running this scam since I was underage. It's a great way to freshen up a dry Sunday. Think of me as the Martha Stewart of metal...

Here's what chaps my ass about all this holy-roller bullshit/Orwellian doublethink;

I can go to a bar and get wrecked and hop in my car and cruise on home DUI'd out to wazoo, but I can't buy a beverage to drink responsibly in my own home? Fuck you, legistalors! I'm self-checking out with my bargain booze and jacking off at how bad your Beaver Cleaver worldview is shattered by my ghastly Jesus' Day liquor swilling/buying.

Just another reason the Black Metal kids got it right.

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Post by Blarg! » Mon October 22nd, 2007, 9:09 pm

MikeLindgren wrote:Fuck that cunt! If you're 18 vote that shithead fascist bitch out of office. If you're 18, you're old enough to vote and die for your country, but not old enough to see some titties or take a shot? Self-righteous pricks.

My little payback goes like this:

It's Sunday, and I want beer. I take a couple of six packs of A&W and swap 'em out with some brewskies. Just replace the A&W bottles with your ale of choice. Hit up the self-checkout, and out the door you go. No more Saturday night last-minute sauce runs. That and beer's always on sale when it's "the lord's day" A sixer usually never runs me more than $3.00 which is a marvelous bargain. You don't have to believe this trick works but if you feel ballsy, trust me it does. Just make sure if you're getting 12oz bottles of root beer you replace it with 12oz bottles of booze or you're up shit's creek. I've been running this scam since I was underage. It's a great way to freshen up a dry Sunday. Think of me as the Martha Stewart of metal...

Here's what chaps my ass about all this holy-roller bullshit/Orwellian doublethink;

I can go to a bar and get wrecked and hop in my car and cruise on home DUI'd out to wazoo, but I can't buy a beverage to drink responsibly in my own home? Fuck you, legistalors! I'm self-checking out with my bargain booze and jacking off at how bad your Beaver Cleaver worldview is shattered by my ghastly Jesus' Day liquor swilling/buying.

Just another reason the Black Metal kids got it right.
hah,Good idea.

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Post by BlackRoija » Mon October 22nd, 2007, 9:41 pm

This law has just been confirmed to NOT affect any concert venues.

False alarm guys. :)

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Post by Holiday Rambler » Wed October 24th, 2007, 12:50 pm

Serves people right for being born 19 years ago!

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Post by Holiday Rambler » Wed October 24th, 2007, 12:52 pm

MikeLindgren wrote:It's Sunday, and I want beer. I take a couple of six packs of A&W and swap 'em out with some brewskies. Just replace the A&W bottles with your ale of choice. Hit up the self-checkout, and out the door you go. No more Saturday night last-minute sauce runs. That and beer's always on sale when it's "the lord's day" A sixer usually never runs me more than $3.00 which is a marvelous bargain. You don't have to believe this trick works but if you feel ballsy, trust me it does. Just make sure if you're getting 12oz bottles of root beer you replace it with 12oz bottles of booze or you're up shit's creek. I've been running this scam since I was underage. It's a great way to freshen up a dry Sunday. Think of me as the Martha Stewart of metal...
Where do you do it? Convenience stores? Seems like it'd be awful obvious that you were switching out six bottles for another six bottles, especially considering that they usually have the beer and the soda several cases apart.

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Post by kfoll » Wed October 24th, 2007, 1:31 pm

Holiday Rambler wrote:
MikeLindgren wrote:It's Sunday, and I want beer. I take a couple of six packs of A&W and swap 'em out with some brewskies. Just replace the A&W bottles with your ale of choice. Hit up the self-checkout, and out the door you go. No more Saturday night last-minute sauce runs. That and beer's always on sale when it's "the lord's day" A sixer usually never runs me more than $3.00 which is a marvelous bargain. You don't have to believe this trick works but if you feel ballsy, trust me it does. Just make sure if you're getting 12oz bottles of root beer you replace it with 12oz bottles of booze or you're up shit's creek. I've been running this scam since I was underage. It's a great way to freshen up a dry Sunday. Think of me as the Martha Stewart of metal...
Where do you do it? Convenience stores? Seems like it'd be awful obvious that you were switching out six bottles for another six bottles, especially considering that they usually have the beer and the soda several cases apart.
Mike would be just like that dude in Superbad when he pours the beer into the laundry detergent bottles. :D
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Post by ScreamBloodyGore » Wed October 24th, 2007, 2:54 pm

kfoll wrote:
Holiday Rambler wrote:
MikeLindgren wrote:It's Sunday, and I want beer. I take a couple of six packs of A&W and swap 'em out with some brewskies. Just replace the A&W bottles with your ale of choice. Hit up the self-checkout, and out the door you go. No more Saturday night last-minute sauce runs. That and beer's always on sale when it's "the lord's day" A sixer usually never runs me more than $3.00 which is a marvelous bargain. You don't have to believe this trick works but if you feel ballsy, trust me it does. Just make sure if you're getting 12oz bottles of root beer you replace it with 12oz bottles of booze or you're up shit's creek. I've been running this scam since I was underage. It's a great way to freshen up a dry Sunday. Think of me as the Martha Stewart of metal...
Where do you do it? Convenience stores? Seems like it'd be awful obvious that you were switching out six bottles for another six bottles, especially considering that they usually have the beer and the soda several cases apart.
Mike would be just like that dude in Superbad when he pours the beer into the laundry detergent bottles. :D
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Post by MikeLindgren » Wed October 24th, 2007, 3:26 pm

Kroger, Wal*Mart, etc. Any large-chain store with grocery baskets. Their cameras typically aren't on the customers, they're usually watching the employees. If you're totally balls out and desperate, you can do the swap, usually inside of the grocery basket if you don't want to get caught, and even have the cashier check you out. The pimple-faced teenie-bopper is usually too worried about fucking the hot chick in 3rd period than to scrutinise your every purchase. Self-checkout is the best, since they go by weight, and won't alert the attendant, who is probably dealing with some dumb fuck that can't navigate past the intro between choosing between Spanish and English.

Another fun fact is that the self-checkouts are not as finely calibrated as you'd think...certain items won't even cause it to register the weight; gift cards, under-armour T-shirts, some athletic shorts, bottles of aspirin, single pairs of socks, neckties, you get the picture...but for it to work, you need to have something else in your bagging area.

I should probably submit this shit to 2600.

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Post by holly » Thu October 25th, 2007, 10:18 pm

Do not try this at a Target, btw.
They all have LP people in each store.

& in case you're getting sassy off those six packs, don't try to steal shit from a Lowe's or a Home Depot, either.
THEY ALSO HAVE LP PEOPLE IN EACH STORE!

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Post by Blarg! » Thu October 25th, 2007, 10:24 pm

holly wrote:Do not try this at a Target, btw.
They all have LP people in each store.

& in case you're getting sassy off those six packs, don't try to steal shit from a Lowe's or a Home Depot, either.
THEY ALSO HAVE LP PEOPLE IN EACH STORE!
Yeah I heard some poor guy got shot in the leg for running out of the store with some flowers and a rake

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