This outta get things stirred up a bit - HA!

[Death2all]

Illegal immigrants are most helpful. Take yesterday for example, we hired 5 hard working men for the day for two 24 packs of Natural Light. My Mexican works cheaper than your Mexican!

well my mexicans pay me for the work they do so I think mine have yours beat ha

[Mike]

this thread is fucking gay. some people are vegans, some people eat meat, some people listen to metal, some people listen to level. who gives a fuck?

Coming from the guy that has a vendetta against Level, that statement is hilarious. Or are you at peace now that they're gone?

[Mike]

i wish they would ban the fuckin illegal imigrants instead, they are illegal after all. its not hard to find them. im sure every one who reads this see about 50 guys standing somewhere every morning lookin for some work. pull up in a bus, tell them you have some work for them. when they get in, lock the fuckin doors and head to mexico. who fuckin cares if they are mexicans or not. just take em all there.

Considering they mostly do jobs no one else cares to do, who gives a shit? Yeah they need to be tighter with the borders, but the government doesn't need to waste even more money by hunting down some Mexicans that build all of our houses and have contributed to the boom in the real estate market for the past 5-10 years.
Oh there I go again, expecting intelligent discussion..

[necroodin]

To me it is completely irrelevant what work they do. Either they are illegal or not. There are plenty of people who wait, and go through the official channels, so what's the point of having regular channels, if we just grant them all happy citizenship status. The law is either worth something or it's not.

[andyb]

i wish they would ban the fuckin illegal imigrants instead, they are illegal after all. its not hard to find them. im sure every one who reads this see about 50 guys standing somewhere every morning lookin for some work. pull up in a bus, tell them you have some work for them. when they get in, lock the fuckin doors and head to mexico. who fuckin cares if they are mexicans or not. just take em all there.

Considering they mostly do jobs no one else cares to do, who gives a shit? Yeah they need to be tighter with the borders, but the government doesn't need to waste even more money by hunting down some Mexicans that build all of our houses and have contributed to the boom in the real estate market for the past 5-10 years.
Oh there I go again, expecting intelligent discussion..

they dont do work no one wants to do. they do it cheaper than any american can afford to do it. when you have 30 spics living in a trailer for 100 dollars a month and sharing 2 mini vans. their cost of living is nothing. you cant compete with them. heavy equipment operators use to get paid on average around 18-22 dollars an hour. now you have crews of mexicans working for 12 dollars an hour. i have no problem with anyone wanting to move here, but they are fucking up everything. our heath care costs more because of them. taxes are more because of them. you cant get a fucking burger from mcdonalds with out knowing some basic spanish, they need to learn english, pay their fuckin taxes, or get the hell out.

[Death2all]

Actually the way I see it we need to do one of two things either let all illegal immigrants in and give them citizenships so they can contribute just like the rest of the taxes payers and so on and so forth. I work with a lot of car insurance company's and have been told from more than a few that they have had instances were there was an accident involving illegal immigrants who were at fault they were not prosecuted and if they were what's keeping them from going back home. That is just one of many examples that I am talking about. Not only that but I do read the arrest log in the local paper and have noticed about more than half of the arrest are of mostly Mexicans. I have also worked in the construction business where there seems to the most of illegal immigrants. I have worked in the constructing business for some time too and I find it funny that OSHA being the hard asses they are haven't come down on employers that employ illegal immigrants. I mean this is a safety hazard when you can't communicate to the people working around you. But these are just some of my opinions I would like to hear someone that may have a better idea that isn't a naive stupid little bitch so holly that means you can keep your opinion to yourself ha. I am tired of pandering to minorities I have seen disability's given to the people that use the system to there advantage and to hell with the ones that needed it but that is the way life goes or so I have learned.

[Mike]

To me it is completely irrelevant what work they do. Either they are illegal or not. There are plenty of people who wait, and go through the official channels, so what's the point of having regular channels, if we just grant them all happy citizenship status. The law is either worth something or it's not.

If only it were that black and white. I'm not saying they should be granted citizenship. I even think we need to stop them from coming over. But going all out on the ones that are here is essentially a waste of time and lots of money.

[Mike]

i wish they would ban the fuckin illegal imigrants instead, they are illegal after all. its not hard to find them. im sure every one who reads this see about 50 guys standing somewhere every morning lookin for some work. pull up in a bus, tell them you have some work for them. when they get in, lock the fuckin doors and head to mexico. who fuckin cares if they are mexicans or not. just take em all there.

Considering they mostly do jobs no one else cares to do, who gives a shit? Yeah they need to be tighter with the borders, but the government doesn't need to waste even more money by hunting down some Mexicans that build all of our houses and have contributed to the boom in the real estate market for the past 5-10 years.
Oh there I go again, expecting intelligent discussion..

they dont do work no one wants to do. they do it cheaper than any american can afford to do it. when you have 30 spics living in a trailer for 100 dollars a month and sharing 2 mini vans. their cost of living is nothing. you cant compete with them. heavy equipment operators use to get paid on average around 18-22 dollars an hour. now you have crews of mexicans working for 12 dollars an hour. i have no problem with anyone wanting to move here, but they are fucking up everything. our heath care costs more because of them. taxes are more because of them. you cant get a fucking burger from mcdonalds with out knowing some basic spanish, they need to learn english, pay their fuckin taxes, or get the hell out.

First off, knock off the racial slurs.

I agree there's a problem, but think of it this way:
Houses are as cheap as they are because of cheap labor. If the prices of houses were higher because of higher labor costs, there'd be less houses sold and less work for those that work in construction. If no one is buying then there's no need to build.
I don't know the answer to this problem. But kicking them all out isn't it. Like it or not, we need most of them. But I agree we can't maintain the current level of illegal immigrants coming in without repercussions.

[necroodin]

Maybe we can just give all the illegals New Oreleans as a Annexed Territory.

[andyb]

To me it is completely irrelevant what work they do. Either they are illegal or not. There are plenty of people who wait, and go through the official channels, so what's the point of having regular channels, if we just grant them all happy citizenship status. The law is either worth something or it's not.

If only it were that black and white. I'm not saying they should be granted citizenship. I even think we need to stop them from coming over. But going all out on the ones that are here is essentially a waste of time and lots of money.

how is that a complete waste of money??? that would be the best use of money.... "the war on drugs" is a complete waste of money, sending billions of dollars in help to foreign countries that dont even want us there is a waste. protecting our law obiding citizens and our borders from illegal invasion is a perfect use of money.

[Death2all]

hey this is a pretty good Idea too

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