shooting at VA Tech today

[Vince]

Well i'm clearly out-witted here, so I'll just cease my argument.

[necroodin]

If you ever feel like getting rid of the AK I would be interested, good ones are semi-hard to come by, except for imitation variants.

[Death2all]

If you ever feel like getting rid of the AK I would be interested, good ones are semi-hard to come by, except for imitation variants.

go to the farmers market in forrest park when they are having a gun show you may be able to find one there

[stalindrummer]

I love shotgun wounds:
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[BlazeTSU]

tougher enforcement of existing laws is the key here.

and maybe educating the public in gun safety and general firearm knowledge. i think its incredible that this guy found a way to kill all these people using the guns he employed.

there truly is no reason why someone should be able to kill 32 people with the handguns this guy employed. the low accuracy rate and limited ammo capacities should not have allowed for this kind of tragedy to occur. if someone in the classroom would've had an idea of the abilities of these weapons this guy could've been stopped.


not to mention the security/police basically gave this guy an audience by not locking the school down. that should be protocol at any time a murder happens on a campus.....especially one involving guns.

and is it legal for non-citizens to purchase guns? if it is, thats the one new law that i would agree with.

[Blarg!]

tougher enforcement of existing laws is the key here.

and maybe educating the public in gun safety and general firearm knowledge. i think its incredible that this guy found a way to kill all these people using the guns he employed.

there truly is no reason why someone should be able to kill 32 people with the handguns this guy employed. the low accuracy rate and limited ammo capacities should not have allowed for this kind of tragedy to occur. if someone in the classroom would've had an idea of the abilities of these weapons this guy could've been stopped.


not to mention the security/police basically gave this guy an audience by not locking the school down. that should be protocol at any time a murder happens on a campus.....especially one involving guns.

and is it legal for non-citizens to purchase guns? if it is, thats the one new law that i would agree with.

everybody should be given guns without any training on how to use them or any questions.

And when the World decides to cut off ammunition supply to america,we invade the other countrys with swords and flaming arrows and sheilds in search for ammunition so we can continue pure chaos back in america.

And back in america the wimen and children can defend themselfs using common household items,like frying pans and kitchen knifes.

also,we should make all cars tanks instead. and when we run out of gas we start riding three headed oxen.

That would be the metal thing to do

[Mike]

The UCLA incident was still uncalled for.

More guns in this case MIGHT have decreased the number dead. But you don't know that.
If someone wants to burst into a classroom and kill everyone they are going to do it. The element of surprise is just too great. No one is prepared for extreme violence in that situation.

And I disagree about the guns. A 9mm is more than enough to kill someone as is a .22
And firing quickly, you can at least incapacitate with the .22
A doctor was quoted "even the injured had no less than 3 bullets in each of their bodies."

There needs to be a better method of identifying and treating people like this.

[BlazeTSU]

And I disagree about the guns. A 9mm is more than enough to kill someone as is a .22
And firing quickly, you can at least incapacitate with the .22
A doctor was quoted "even the injured had no less than 3 bullets in each of their bodies."

my point wasn't to say that the guns weren't lethal.....hell, a pellet gun is lethal with the right shot. my point was that these were pistols with limited accuracy and limited ammo capacity. to fire at least 3 shots into all 60 people he shot he would've had to reload a multitude of times. on top of that approx 180 hits he would've missed at least half that amount. so thats a bare minimum of 270 shots fired from pistols. i think the largest capacity you can get a glock 9mm clip is 33 rounds and the .22 is more like 10 rounds. thats a hell of a lot of two handed reloading going on.

with all that reloading going on i think something could've been done about this before the death toll got so high. something like that program that teaches elementary school kids to fight back if someone comes into their classroom with a gun would've done wonders against this guy and his two pistols. heres an article about the program http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15253321/

sounds like a crazy plan until some crazed individual goes on a rampage and shots over 60 people. if they would have fought back he would not have reached doube digits.

[Brian]

Its all that darn metal music causin' this violence!

My roomate already called that one. I'm sure we'll find out he was picked on a lot, wasn't getting laid, and played GTA and listened to Slayer.

They're not exactly the most metal band out there, but apparently the kid wrote a play based on the GNR song "Mr Brownstone" where the kids skip school and fantasize about killing their teacher. Just give it a day or two until the media starts blaming music.

[Holiday Rambler]

Yes, giving regular citizens EVEN MORE access to firearms is the answer. I've often thought that a more Rambo-like mentality is what the worlds #1 handgun-death leaders need.

I'd love to see some statistics on handgun killings versus crimes (or madman-rampages)averted by common folks using their own weapons. No, seriously. I'd love to.

[Blarg!]

Its all that darn metal music causin' this violence!

My roomate already called that one. I'm sure we'll find out he was picked on a lot, wasn't getting laid, and played GTA and listened to Slayer.

They're not exactly the most metal band out there, but apparently the kid wrote a play based on the GNR song "Mr Brownstone" where the kids skip school and fantasize about killing their teacher. Just give it a day or two until the media starts blaming music.

No,he was asian,he doesent lisen to slayer

[Death2all]

Yes, giving regular citizens EVEN MORE access to firearms is the answer. I've often thought that a more Rambo-like mentality is what the worlds #1 handgun-death leaders need.

I'd love to see some statistics on handgun killings versus crimes (or madman-rampages)averted by common folks using their own weapons. No, seriously. I'd love to.

Actually more people die from doctors prescribing the wrong medicine than actual handgun deaths. I think that even suicide by handguns is higher than madmen going on a shooting rampage.

One more thing how many people on here think it would have been ok to profile this kid? For the typical reason's like we was a loner he liked violent video games and movies and so on and so on.

America can't keep the flow of drugs out of this country much less the regulation of guns being sold on the street. What good do laws do if no one is following them.

[Vince]

Even if someone dies from taking the wrong medicine, a doctor was still trying to heal them. Guns dont fucking heal anything.

[Death2all]

Even if someone dies from taking the wrong medicine, a doctor was still trying to heal them. Guns dont fucking heal anything.

Guns don't kill people Chuck Norris does

OK how about this more people are killed by drunk drivers and for that matter motor vehicle homicides than by mad men going on killing sprees.

Also if a robber is given the choice of braking into to a pro gun household or a anti gun household which do you think he is going to prefer?

GO WOLVERINES!!!!!!

[Vince]

Yes, and vehicles, like guns, are another of society's problems. If we had reliable public transporation in this comically-planned city, then the number of auto accidents in the metro area would start to decline.

I can't force you to read, but education greatly improves your life.