tell me more about this comp?

[andyb]

i dont mean any offense to anyone with this. but... like you said yourself blaze you have talked about it but never did it. time and money are a must. but so is some responsability. atlmetal is trying to get it going. standards are a must but not a single person on this forum will agree about the line up on a compilation. so you have to go with what you got. instead of pickin what bands you think suck or not, you should look into the recording. the shows they play. how hard they work. if you havent heard of them, they arent working hard enough. look for professional bands. thats all you need. let who ever gets the cds decide if they like them or not.

[BlazeTSU]

instead of pickin what bands you think suck or not, you should look into the recording. the shows they play. how hard they work. if you havent heard of them, they arent working hard enough. look for professional bands. thats all you need. let who ever gets the cds decide if they like them or not.

thats exactly what i meant.

and just another note about the comp. i can think of at least 10 bands that NEED to be on any atlanta metal comp. the harder working and better bands in the scene should be getting e-mails asking them to be a part of it before everyone and their brother start taking all the slots.

[donny]

i should clarify myself better. what i mean by standards is things like production, genre, serious bands.....etc.....etc.... i don't think that it will serve us well at all to have a bunch of songs that were recorded on a boombox in someones bedroom(unless they are too KVLT for studios). also it won't serve the metal scene much good if you get 5 or 6 rock bands on the comp. and it won't represent the atlanta metal scene very well if its full of bands that dont' actually play shows or promote themselves.....or who just aren't an active part of the hardworking bands in the scene.

and you won't find many people around here more into helping local bands and atlanta metal than me. i started the original atlanta metal message boards and i go to as many local shows as possible as well as play in The Souls Unrest.

You are basically contradicting your self here. Why would a band PAY $50.00 to be put on a compilation if they were not A serious band with a good recording that they really wanted to promote and work hard at promoting???

Yes, if a band tried to submit a horrible recording I would ask if they could provide a better one.

Also, this compilation is for ATLmetal.com bands only. I know this may seem wrong but I am just trying to help promote the bands who have taken the time to register with us, simply a way of saying thanks. Understand that this in no way means that we don?t have love for the other local metal and hardcore bands of ATL. I would just really like to be able to put as a note of the album ?All bands on this album can be found at www.atlmetal.com? or something like that.

Know that if I am willing to put ATlmetal.com?s name on this album, I am going to make sure every aspect of it is the best it can be.

That is awesome you started the original atlanta metal message board, and that you hit a lot of local shows, I do myself. We should try to hit a local show sometime and talk more.

Jeremy

since when does having 50 bucks equal having a good recording and being serious ? watch how you talk to people actually invovled in the scene .. having a gay website doesnt equal you being active in the scene if it did you and level would be the kings of the town

Where exactly did I say that having $50 equals having a good recording and being serious? Oh wait, that?s right, I didn't. What I did say was I didn't believe a band would pay $50 to try and promote a shitty recording. If we did receive a submission of a badly recorded song, like I said, we would ask them to provide a better recorded song.

I have been going to as many local metal and hardcore shows as I can possibly get to. I am sorry you feel the website is gay, but never once did I say that you have to go to it.

Damn, this has got to be the most negative forum I have ever been on. Full of cocky ass people who think they know everything there is to know about the heavy music scene. I mean shit, you people realize all I am trying to do is help out some bands that are willing to help themselves. If this comp. goes down in flames, which I am sure it won?t, who gives a shit. This is a learning experience as well, it can only get better.

I understand everyone?s point with the standers. That is the kind of feedback I would welcome, negative or positive as long as it is getting somewhere. This shit about, your website is gay, is absolutely childish and immature, fucking grow up or shut up.

im sorry if i hurt your feelings .... but your wrong to think that 50 bucks will somehow weed out the flakes ... you already have bands on your site that arent even from atlanta ... should that be allowed on the comp just cause they are on your site? support the scene not the green man .. fight the fight we know nu metal isnt right

[AmoebicDysentery]

I agree with Blaze. The bands that should be on the compilation should be a representation of the bands that are actually active. I've seen on the Atlmetal site and Myspace a Georgia band called Immortal...This is the kind of shit that we don't need.

[andyb]

you get a good idea? enough feedback? keep us posted on whats going on with this. id like a copy when you work it all out

[ATLmetal.com]

you get a good idea? enough feedback? keep us posted on whats going on with this. id like a copy when you work it all out

Will do man, so far we do have one sign up. The band is Chamberlins Charge, these guys a very good and work hard. The recording sounds great as well!

I thank all of you for your comments, good or bad, this is a learning experience for us at ATLmetal.com so every little bit helps.

If you would like to stay uptodate with what is going on with the comp just keep checking the "Home" page of the site. I have put up a "Submissions so far" table to list what bands have signed up with what song.

Thanks again!
Jeremy

[TheKshatriya]

Ok im about to sound like a dick, but im sorry, im not trying to.

I have never heard of that band so I just checked them out, and THEY ARE NOT A METAL BAND!!!!!!!!! I think what you are doing is a really cool idea. But this is supposed to be a comp for Atlanta metal, not a horrible excuse for a hardcore band comp. This isnt a post about that band, but I can guarantee that those guys never gave a shit about hardcore before it became a trend, and they wont be around when it fades away, and that is the 100% truth.

You need to find the best real metal bands in Atlanta and have them rep the city. I think Blaze said something about active bands but personally I dont even care if the band is still together, but thats just me. The Souls Unrest, Signs of Dying, Burial Rites, Kshatriya, Amoebic Dystentery, Demoncy, Unblessed, Avulsion, or even Mastodon...All of those bands are/were from here and played real metal. Im not telling you want bands to put on it, just listing some good ones from here.

[ATLmetal.com]

Ok im about to sound like a dick, but im sorry, im not trying to.

I have never heard of that band so I just checked them out, and THEY ARE NOT A METAL BAND!!!!!!!!! I think what you are doing is a really cool idea. But this is supposed to be a comp for Atlanta metal, not a horrible excuse for a hardcore band comp. This isnt a post about that band, but I can guarantee that those guys never gave a shit about hardcore before it became a trend, and they wont be around when it fades away, and that is the 100% truth.

You need to find the best real metal bands in Atlanta and have them rep the city. I think Blaze said something about active bands but personally I dont even care if the band is still together, but thats just me. The Souls Unrest, Signs of Dying, Burial Rites, Kshatriya, Amoebic Dystentery, Demoncy, Unblessed, Avulsion, or even Mastodon...All of those bands are/were from here and played real metal. Im not telling you want bands to put on it, just listing some good ones from here.

I understand everyones point about the Comp. but there is a very simple solution to all of this people, are you ready? Ok...

1. You can either submit your song knowing that it WILL be heard by 1,000 fans in the ATL area, and that when we say "Soundtrack to Atlanta Metal" you understand that "Metal" is easier then saying "Soundtrack to Atlanta Heavy Music", not to mention it sounds better. Plus, our website is ATLmetal.com not ATLheavymusic.com. Please dont make this out to be a negative, how can getting your music heard by 1,000 fans, venues, and other bands be a negative thing?

2. The very simple part, dont submit a song and wait to see how this one turns out. If it turns out to be somthing you would've liked to have been on, then submit a song on the next Comp. we do.

Honestly it is really that simple, either you want to promote your band in every way possible, or you don't. I mean, everyone is talking about these so called "hard working bands" well here is a comp. that is going to have 1,000 copies profesionaly made and passed out all over ATL by you, fans, other bands, us here at ATLmetal.com and more.

[LEVELATLANTA]

Ok im about to sound like a dick, but im sorry, im not trying to.

I have never heard of that band so I just checked them out, and THEY ARE NOT A METAL BAND!!!!!!!!! I think what you are doing is a really cool idea. But this is supposed to be a comp for Atlanta metal, not a horrible excuse for a hardcore band comp. This isnt a post about that band, but I can guarantee that those guys never gave a shit about hardcore before it became a trend, and they wont be around when it fades away, and that is the 100% truth.

You need to find the best real metal bands in Atlanta and have them rep the city. I think Blaze said something about active bands but personally I dont even care if the band is still together, but thats just me. The Souls Unrest, Signs of Dying, Burial Rites, Kshatriya, Amoebic Dystentery, Demoncy, Unblessed, Avulsion, or even Mastodon...All of those bands are/were from here and played real metal. Im not telling you want bands to put on it, just listing some good ones from here.

I understand everyones point about the Comp. but there is a very simple solution to all of this people, are you ready? Ok...

1. You can either submit your song knowing that it WILL be heard by 1,000 fans in the ATL area, and that when we say "Soundtrack to Atlanta Metal" you understand that "Metal" is easier then saying "Soundtrack to Atlanta Heavy Music", not to mention it sounds better. Plus, our website is ATLmetal.com not ATLheavymusic.com. Please dont make this out to be a negative, how can getting your music heard by 1,000 fans, venues, and other bands be a negative thing?

2. The very simple part, dont submit a song and wait to see how this one turns out. If it turns out to be somthing you would've liked to have been on, then submit a song on the next Comp. we do.

Honestly it is really that simple, either you want to promote your band in every way possible, or you don't. I mean, everyone is talking about these so called "hard working bands" well here is a comp. that is going to have 1,000 copies profesionaly made and passed out all over ATL by you, fans, other bands, us here at ATLmetal.com and more.

Thanks for what you are trying to do here and good luck with most of this bunch. They are very hard to do anything for and are more concerned with their definition of metal that actually trying to get ANYTHING done. Trust me, I came here putting together a 30+ band show for the Masquerade Metalfest back at the end of last year and got nothing but shit on for it. I came here for one reason only and that was to make sure that some of these "real metal" bands were put on the bill and not excluded as in past events. I also had to book some other heavy genres on the bill because it was the Masquerade and they expect tickets sales and an all death metal bill would not have filled Purgatory much less Hell and Heaven. Well guess what, a lot of people here got all pissy because they wanted the whole damn bill or they wanted the name changed to something else. Sounds a lot like what you are dealing with now doesn't it.

Good luck man and thanks for trying to do something for the Atl.

[BlazeTSU]

come on levelatlanta i know you guys have caught some crap lately but don't turn this compilation thing into something its not. we aren't saying that every band needs to be super underground. thats not the point. the point is, if you want to do good for the scene then put out a good friggin comp. what good is it going to do to have 18 mediocre hardcore bands on an atlanta metal comp? none. that hasn't happend, but it surely could with the way the thing is set up. i have to be honest here, i think its a horrible idea to leave every spot on the comp open for just anybody to get. matter of fact.....i'd bet my ass that if this was an actual metal comp that had some sort of integrity most of the spots would already be filled.

and when the hell did metal become this accepting friggin genre anyway? let me in on this levelatlanta. why should we be accepting to any and all BS out there? last i knew it was a rebellion to the garbage mainstream, money hungry bitches. metal was never "PC" and it shouldn't become that way. metal isn't a loose term either. it has become one in the past couple of years but there really is little, actual debate about what IS and IS NOT metal.


i've worked my ass off for this scene, the METAL scene. and excuse me if i give a damn about the standard of whats put out to represent it.

[ATLmetal.com]

I agree with Blaze. The bands that should be on the compilation should be a representation of the bands that are actually active. I've seen on the Atlmetal site and Myspace a Georgia band called Immortal...This is the kind of shit that we don't need.

Hi, this is Evan from ATLmetal.com. I actually sent those guys in Immortal a huge email about how wrong it was for them to have that name and links to many many places where they could learn about the REAL Immortal and also gave them some helpful hints about how to pick a band name in the future (Google, Ultimate Band List... etc.) and they have changed their name since then. They have not yet updated their ATLmetal.com profile, and since it's just me and Jeremy doing this and we both work full-time jobs and play in our own metal band, time is sometimes an issue, and we haven't got around to doiing it ourselves yet. When we say Atlanta we do mean the metro area, not just Atlanta proper, so if some band is from a little bit outside the city, sorry if I don't know the actual cutoff from what is a suburb and what's not, but the important thing isn't really geography here, but heavy music and sticking together to help our scene get the recognition it deserves and help promote it toa point where the shows are full and the bands don't have to be in a shitty situation of pay to play shows and having to presell tickets in order to get booked at the local venues (LIKE @ THE MASQUERADE). We obviously aren't going to have a bunch of joke bands on this compilation or bands that sound like they recorded in their mom's laundry closet. This is promoting and representing us as well, remember? So, in short... if there's a band that you think NEEDS to be on this compilation, TELL THEM ABOUT IT! We obviously can't know everybody in the area scene. Atlanta is a big, sprawling monster of a city and it's hard to meet everybody when they think they're the shit. Thanks for the interest. Stay Heavy. Stay true.

[holly]

come on levelatlanta i know you guys have caught some crap lately but don't turn this compilation thing into something its not. we aren't saying that every band needs to be super underground. thats not the point. the point is, if you want to do good for the scene then put out a good friggin comp. what good is it going to do to have 18 mediocre hardcore bands on an atlanta metal comp?

I hate to bring definitions into this, but Chamberlain's Charge isn't even a hardcore band, let alone do they have anything to do with AHC.

This is actually cracking me up, because my brother used to be in a band with that kid Tim.

Anyway, my point is this: just because a band is heavy but not metal does NOT mean that it's hardcore. & it's fairly insulting to those of us who are actually into hardcore that you equate us to being the same as those kids.

EDIT: Jesus fucking Christ, they have clapping parts.
Ugh.

[BlazeTSU]

i haven't even listened to the band, so i honestly have no clue what they sound like. but i trust neals opinion of metal so i knew that they weren't metal.

and i'm with you holly. just b/c something is heavy doesn't make it metal, and it doesn't make it hardcore. kinda goes with what i was saying about the lack of debate on what IS and IS NOT metal. people who are truly into metal know what metal is........even if they don't like certain sub-genres. same with hardcore, someone who is really into hardcore knows which bands are real hardcore and which ones aren't.

i dare say that if you are confused about what is metal and what is not....then you are NOT metal!

[LEVELATLANTA]

come on levelatlanta i know you guys have caught some crap lately but don't turn this compilation thing into something its not. we aren't saying that every band needs to be super underground. thats not the point. the point is, if you want to do good for the scene then put out a good friggin comp. what good is it going to do to have 18 mediocre hardcore bands on an atlanta metal comp? none. that hasn't happend, but it surely could with the way the thing is set up. i have to be honest here, i think its a horrible idea to leave every spot on the comp open for just anybody to get. matter of fact.....i'd bet my ass that if this was an actual metal comp that had some sort of integrity most of the spots would already be filled.

and when the hell did metal become this accepting friggin genre anyway? let me in on this levelatlanta. why should we be accepting to any and all BS out there? last i knew it was a rebellion to the garbage mainstream, money hungry bitches. metal was never "PC" and it shouldn't become that way. metal isn't a loose term either. it has become one in the past couple of years but there really is little, actual debate about what IS and IS NOT metal.


i've worked my ass off for this scene, the METAL scene. and excuse me if i give a damn about the standard of whats put out to represent it.

I'm not shitting on your comp Blaze. I think it is a great idea. I just saying good luck and get ready for a lot of bitching. I also never said any of the things pointed out in your first paragraph in regards to it.

I respect your definition of metal. It is good to see someone spell it that way other that how many blast beats, sweeps, solos, etc....you have in your songs.

I would also like to add that I have seen another definition. To many people this is the only thing that keeps them sane for whatever they are dealing with in life. Bands and fans.

Good luck with the comp and I certainly didn't mean any disrespect in regards to it or what you personally do here in ATL. So don't take it that way.



C

[BlazeTSU]

i'll admit that i kinda took the ball and ran with it after your last post levelatlanta. honestly, i just passionatly don't want this atlanta metal scene represented poorly and by bands that mean absolutely nothing to the scene. meaning, bands that aren't actually contributing in any way and bands that don't actually show the talent that is here.

i appologize for singling you out during my bitchfest..........but i stand by everything i said regarding metal.