good books

[stalindrummer]

Dune books are the only books that i have ever read, ever.

[andyb]

any one ever read any clive barker?

Yeah I love Clive Barker. Sacrament, Imagica and Coldheart Canyon are probably my favorites. And the Books of Blood collections.

i just bought imagica, is it good?

Like I said, it's one of my favorites so yeah it's good.

haha good point. cant ya tell im a drummer?

[necroodin]

Andy B, the book is by Pierre Berton who has several other titles I have read, most notably Klondike (concerning the time of the gold rush etc). Flames Across the Border gives much depth to the Canadian-American war in the 1800's. Highly interesting. Oh yes, everyone should read Ilium by Dan Simmons, it is a mindfuck of a sci-fi.

[BlazeTSU]

i'm in the middle of......

THE GREAT DIVORCE - C.S. Lewis
HAUNTED - Chuck Palahniuk

both really good books. C.S. Lewis is probably my favorite writer. he is great at both non-fiction and fiction......super smart and imaginitive guy. Chuck Palahniuk is just brilliantly twisted.

[necroodin]

Too many dismiss C.S Lewis due to his Christianity, but they deny them selves literary wonder.

[andyb]

christian??? in the cronicles of narnia he portrays god as a huge lion. seems just a little sacraligeous to me

[holly]

christian??? in the cronicles of narnia he portrays god as a huge lion. seems just a little sacraligeous to me

I thought that C.S. Lewis's Christianity was a pretty well known thing.
I read these when I was a kid, so I didn't get the connections then (in fact, I'd probably still miss a lot of them now, since I've never taken the time to read the Bible in its entirety), but I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to be sacreligious.

[stalindrummer]

Its not sacreligious, its racist. Thats what it is because......yeah

[andyb]

hell yea hes a racist.... up with cenataur rights.

[DeathfareDevil]

The William Gibson fans who felt cheated, if not mocked, by that Keanu Reeves fiasco should check out New Rose Hotel. Definitely a good movie, and faithful to the story -- if sort of expanded a bit. (And Asia Argento plays Sandii, so that's a reason to see it, right there {Willem Defoe and Christopher Walken also are in it}.)

And whoever's reading Chuck Palahniuk's Haunted: That "story" by Saint Gut-Free utterly freaked me (the swimming pool thing). I saw the author on a late-night talk show, claiming that something like 60 people, mainly in Italy, oddly, had passed out during his readings of that particular part of the book. I don't doubt it.

I too read that Choosing Death: History of Death Metal and Grindcore. Surprisingly good, if a bit Napalm Death-centric (or Earache-centric, really). My local library actually had it. Who knew they carried Feral House stuff.

As for what I'm reading right now -- mostly crap. So I'll rely on the old standby, Thomas Ligotti. If anyone wants a contemporary continuation of Poe and Lovecraft, but with a totally nihilistic undercurrent, I can't recommend Ligotti highly enough. (Actually his language is more like Nabokov or Kafka than the aforementioned pair, but his themes definitely echo the dismal metaphysics of those New Englanders.)

I would offer some political recommendations, but after reading that, um, somewhat heated thread about Katrina, I get the feeling they wouldn't go over too well. Let's just say that most of the political titles in my library feature the word "Lies".

[Mike]

The William Gibson fans who felt cheated, if not mocked, by that Keanu Reeves fiasco should check out New Rose Hotel. Definitely a good movie, and faithful to the story -- if sort of expanded a bit. (And Asia Argento plays Sandii, so that's a reason to see it, right there {Willem Defoe and Christopher Walken also are in it}.)

And whoever's reading Chuck Palahniuk's Haunted: That "story" by Saint Gut-Free utterly freaked me (the swimming pool thing). I saw the author on a late-night talk show, claiming that something like 60 people, mainly in Italy, oddly, had passed out during his readings of that particular part of the book. I don't doubt it.

I too read that Choosing Death: History of Death Metal and Grindcore. Surprisingly good, if a bit Napalm Death-centric (or Earache-centric, really). My local library actually had it. Who knew they carried Feral House stuff.

As for what I'm reading right now -- mostly crap. So I'll rely on the old standby, Thomas Ligotti. If anyone wants a contemporary continuation of Poe and Lovecraft, but with a totally nihilistic undercurrent, I can't recommend Ligotti highly enough. (Actually his language is more like Nabokov or Kafka than the aforementioned pair, but his themes definitely echo the dismal metaphysics of those New Englanders.)

I would offer some political recommendations, but after reading that, um, somewhat heated thread about Katrina, I get the feeling they wouldn't go over too well. Let's just say that most of the political titles in my library feature the word "Lies".

Well then. Hello Mr. Intellectual out of nowhere. You have 20 posts so you must have posted before but cool that you came back.

Also would one book be "Lies" and the Lying Liars who tell them?

[Mike]

The William Gibson fans who felt cheated, if not mocked, by that Keanu Reeves fiasco should check out New Rose Hotel. Definitely a good movie, and faithful to the story -- if sort of expanded a bit. (And Asia Argento plays Sandii, so that's a reason to see it, right there {Willem Defoe and Christopher Walken also are in it}.)

And whoever's reading Chuck Palahniuk's Haunted: That "story" by Saint Gut-Free utterly freaked me (the swimming pool thing). I saw the author on a late-night talk show, claiming that something like 60 people, mainly in Italy, oddly, had passed out during his readings of that particular part of the book. I don't doubt it.

I too read that Choosing Death: History of Death Metal and Grindcore. Surprisingly good, if a bit Napalm Death-centric (or Earache-centric, really). My local library actually had it. Who knew they carried Feral House stuff.

As for what I'm reading right now -- mostly crap. So I'll rely on the old standby, Thomas Ligotti. If anyone wants a contemporary continuation of Poe and Lovecraft, but with a totally nihilistic undercurrent, I can't recommend Ligotti highly enough. (Actually his language is more like Nabokov or Kafka than the aforementioned pair, but his themes definitely echo the dismal metaphysics of those New Englanders.)

I would offer some political recommendations, but after reading that, um, somewhat heated thread about Katrina, I get the feeling they wouldn't go over too well. Let's just say that most of the political titles in my library feature the word "Lies".

Also, Kafka, Poe, and Lovecraft are amazing. I've been wanting to read Nabokov but I haven't gotten around to it yet. He's one of those people you hate because they are/were so smart. Writing a classic novel in your own language is one thing, but in a completely different language with a different alphabet? Fuck.
Oh and bad movie adaptations? It is my personal quest in life to beat the shit out of and maim Stuart Gordon for making shitty versions of Lovecraft stories.
Alright, Re-Animator was pretty good and kind of funny, if you look at it as an independent narrative. But then you remember it's supposed to be a Lovecraft adaptation and you start clawing at your eyes.
And Dagon?
Words cannot express how bad this movie is. It's a travesty. And he did the one thing you do not do, which is show Cthulu. The fucking point is it is mysteriously evil. And it was a terrible CGI Cthulu too. Ugh.
Stuart Gordon and David Lynch look out.

[DeathfareDevil]

Also, Kafka, Poe, and Lovecraft are amazing. I've been wanting to read Nabokov but I haven't gotten around to it yet. He's one of those people you hate because they are/were so smart. Writing a classic novel in your own language is one thing, but in a completely different language with a different alphabet? Fuck.
Oh and bad movie adaptations? It is my personal quest in life to beat the shit out of and maim Stuart Gordon for making shitty versions of Lovecraft stories.
Alright, Re-Animator was pretty good and kind of funny, if you look at it as an independent narrative. But then you remember it's supposed to be a Lovecraft adaptation and you start clawing at your eyes.
And Dagon?
Words cannot express how bad this movie is. It's a travesty. And he did the one thing you do not do, which is show Cthulu. The fucking point is it is mysteriously evil. And it was a terrible CGI Cthulu too. Ugh.
Stuart Gordon and David Lynch look out.

What's this about David Lynch? Did he do something with a Lovecraft story? (Coincidentally, Lynch's production company bought the rights to a story by the author I named above, Thomas Ligotti, but a) it's in limbo, and b) considering my experience with Lovecraft flicks -- and your experience, too, obviously -- I really, really wish these things were let along by filmmakers. Some stuff needs to exist solely on the page.)

[DeathfareDevil]

Well then. Hello Mr. Intellectual out of nowhere. You have 20 posts so you must have posted before but cool that you came back.

Also would one book be "Lies" and the Lying Liars who tell them?

Um. Hi?

Anyway, yes, to answer your question. But Franken is better for humor than he is for any enlightenment. He freely admits he's a biased partisan. David Corn's The Lies of George W. Bush is a more ... sober affair.

I've tried to read books written by modern conservatives, I really have. But until they can offer better than Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, Bernard Goldberg, and Sean Hannity, I suppose I'll be parked left-of-center, readingwise.

I guess it's sort of sad, though, that most of today's political literature falls into the left/right spectrum. Eh, I'll save that gripe for another thread.

[Mike]

Well then. Hello Mr. Intellectual out of nowhere. You have 20 posts so you must have posted before but cool that you came back.

Also would one book be "Lies" and the Lying Liars who tell them?

Um. Hi?

Anyway, yes, to answer your question. But Franken is better for humor than he is for any enlightenment. He freely admits he's a biased partisan. David Corn's The Lies of George W. Bush is a more ... sober affair.

I've tried to read books written by modern conservatives, I really have. But until they can offer better than Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, Bernard Goldberg, and Sean Hannity, I suppose I'll be parked left-of-center, readingwise.

I guess it's sort of sad, though, that most of today's political literature falls into the left/right spectrum. Eh, I'll save that gripe for another thread.

Sorry. I was just amazed that there was a somewhat intelligent discussion occuring on these boards. Hence, my reaction to you. Sorry to weird you out, haha.
And yeah I just hate David Lynch in general because he sucks. Also, I hate when people come back with, "oh, you just don't understand his movies". Thanks jackass, I understood Blue Velvet; it still is a laughable piece of shit. Cryptic and vague do not automatically equal good. Most people don't realize that.