shooting at VA Tech today

[necroodin]

Theres no forcing you not being a bed-wetting liberal pussy either I guess. mouawhahhaha

[Vince]

Theres no forcing you not being a bed-wetting liberal pussy either I guess. mouawhahhaha

I'm far more left than that, you simpleton.

[BlazeTSU]

I'd love to see some statistics on handgun killings versus crimes (or madman-rampages)averted by common folks using their own weapons. No, seriously. I'd love to.

there is no way to measure crimes averted by citizens with weapons seeing how not every incident would be recorded. owning a gun responsibly doesn't mean that you have to shot every would-be criminal thus not making it very newsworthy. our media is hellbent on bloodshed, not heroism so chances of you actually hearing of a non-violent aversion is little to none.

see, the difference in a law abiding citizen carrying a gun and a murderer carrying a gun is that a law abiding citizen may never fire his weapon. a murderer certianly will and just as they have no regard to life they certainly do not have respect for the law. thus rendering gun control useless.

if people as delusional as these school shooters go to the great lengths to plan these rampages what makes you think that gun control would hinder them at all? do they seem to have some sort of problem breaking the law? it doesn't look like it. i know that if i wanted an illegal firearm tomorrow i could get one cheaper and faster than i could going to a gun store and doing it legally. is gun control going to change that? is gun control going to make it harder for criminals to get firearms?........not exactly.


i hate to beat a dead horse but if you'd actually like a few statistics about "common folk" averting crime with weapons why not google "kennesaw georgia crime rates" and do a little research.

[Vince]

Based on the reports that came out today, it seems that Cho Seung-Hui was just another average American who was driven to madness by the spectacle of capitalism. Ironically, he seemed at least cognizant of the factors that drove him insane, since he sent his pre-packaged, ranting media epitaph to NBC.

Violence has become so commodified in the mass media that it hardly affects us. Take for instance, a movie like 300, which has been discussed on this board, which glorifies the Spartan ideal of death on the battlefield. Well folks, sadly, death is not glory, especially in the case of this Korean-American fuckhead. Every single person who has died in Iraq has died in vain, in the name of money. Think about that for a while and try not to go insane like that VT guy.

[Vince]

In response to Blaze:

Gun control will not make it exponentionally harder for criminals to get guns. It WILL make it tougher for deranged college students to get guns.

[BlazeTSU]

In response to Blaze:

Gun control will not make it exponentionally harder for criminals to get guns. It WILL make it tougher for deranged college students to get guns.

it would be easier to see things this way if the guy had woke up monday morning pissed off, went to his local gun store and bought the guns that day. he obviously had this thing planned out a long time ago and getting the guns illegally would've been no problem at all.

[Vince]

But my argument is that this guy was clearly INSANE, not pissed off. He bought the gun a little over a month before his rampage. Unlike this guy, criminals use violence as a means to an end. This guy just wanted to kill and make a name for himself in the media. If he had a tougher time getting the guns he used, there would have been more time for someone to figure out his plans.

[BlazeTSU]

Based on the reports that came out today, it seems that Cho Seung-Hui was just another average American who was driven to madness by the spectacle of capitalism. Ironically, he seemed at least cognizant of the factors that drove him insane, since he sent his pre-packaged, ranting media epitaph to NBC.

Violence has become so commodified in the mass media that it hardly affects us. Take for instance, a movie like 300, which has been discussed on this board, which glorifies the Spartan ideal of death on the battlefield. Well folks, sadly, death is not glory, especially in the case of this Korean-American fuckhead. Every single person who has died in Iraq has died in vain, in the name of money. Think about that for a while and try not to go insane like that VT guy.

well, this kid wasn't an american. he was a poor south korean kid that came to america with his family and benefited greaty from capitalism. never getting around to that whole becoming a citizen thing.

but i do agree that violence is big business for the mass media. i hate it. so much i could say about this but i don't even know where to start.

[Vince]

To say this kid wasn't an American is to deny the fundamental make-up of this country, which includes people of all colors, races, and creeds, regardless of social status, and regardless of what TV tells you.

There's no doubt a little of Cho Seung-Hui in all of us.

[stalindrummer]

To say this kid wasn't an American is to deny the fundamental make-up of this country, which includes people of all colors, races, and creeds, regardless of social status, and regardless of what TV tells you.

There's no doubt a little of Cho Seung-Hui in all of us.

....................No.

[BlazeTSU]

But my argument is that this guy was clearly INSANE, not pissed off. He bought the gun a little over a month before his rampage......

exactly. that is my point as well. we just look at this differently.

i see his prior planning made getting the guns an afterthought. once he was sold on the idea, it didn't really matter how the guns were obtained. furthermore, as i stated earlier, its not very hard to purchase illegal firearms.

this kid's plan should've been figured out or at least smothered anyway. the campus security and police dropped the ball on this one and a lot of blood was shed due to their ignorance.

[BlazeTSU]

To say this kid wasn't an American is to deny the fundamental make-up of this country, which includes people of all colors, races, and creeds, regardless of social status, and regardless of what TV tells you.

There's no doubt a little of Cho Seung-Hui in all of us.

wow, i guess that makes every person on the planet an american since this country includes "peoples of all colors, races, and creeds, regardless of social status....."

seeing as how the kid WASN'T a citizen of the United States Of America.......he was not an american.

[necroodin]

Socialist ideals in the long run will be far more dangerous than any rampaging psycho.

[ProstheticHead12]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/ ... 9800.shtml

Hopefully we can all at least agree that these folks are idiotic assholes.

[Mitch]

I don't see how the fact that some people won't obey gun control laws makes them worthless.