good books

[Mike]

Also, Kafka, Poe, and Lovecraft are amazing. I've been wanting to read Nabokov but I haven't gotten around to it yet. He's one of those people you hate because they are/were so smart. Writing a classic novel in your own language is one thing, but in a completely different language with a different alphabet? Fuck.
Oh and bad movie adaptations? It is my personal quest in life to beat the shit out of and maim Stuart Gordon for making shitty versions of Lovecraft stories.
Alright, Re-Animator was pretty good and kind of funny, if you look at it as an independent narrative. But then you remember it's supposed to be a Lovecraft adaptation and you start clawing at your eyes.
And Dagon?
Words cannot express how bad this movie is. It's a travesty. And he did the one thing you do not do, which is show Cthulu. The fucking point is it is mysteriously evil. And it was a terrible CGI Cthulu too. Ugh.
Stuart Gordon and David Lynch look out.

What's this about David Lynch? Did he do something with a Lovecraft story? (Coincidentally, Lynch's production company bought the rights to a story by the author I named above, Thomas Ligotti, but a) it's in limbo, and b) considering my experience with Lovecraft flicks -- and your experience, too, obviously -- I really, really wish these things were let along by filmmakers. Some stuff needs to exist solely on the page.)

Also, David Lynch's adaptation of Dune is shitty.

[holly]

And yeah I just hate David Lynch in general because he sucks. Also, I hate when people come back with, "oh, you just don't understand his movies". Thanks jackass, I understood Blue Velvet; it still is a laughable piece of shit. Cryptic and vague do not automatically equal good. Most people don't realize that.

This is why we get along so well.

[holly]

Also, David Lynch's adaptation of Dune is shitty.

Oh no he didn't.
Can you tell I'm bored and approaching delirium?

[Mike]

Back to Clive Barker, has anyone read The Hellbound Heart(?) the book Hellraiser was based on?

The Hellraiser comics are pretty sweet. And now I sound like a complete loser. But seriously, Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman wrote some of the issues. And if you know who they are you will realize that is awesome.

[Mike]

Also, David Lynch's adaptation of Dune is shitty.

Oh no he didn't.
Can you tell I'm bored and approaching delirium?

Yes I did. Snakes of Christ is a badass song.
Yeah, you should see it to laugh. Fucking Sting is in it. As in Gordon Sumner. The guy who sings Roxanne.
And Patrick Stewart is wasted in it. The movie looks ok, I'll give it that. Especially for 1984. But he changes a lot of shit from the book, and uses this idiotic voiceover from each character way too much. It just shows he can't, you know, be a filmaker and show us what is going on.

[holly]

Also, David Lynch's adaptation of Dune is shitty.

Oh no he didn't.
Can you tell I'm bored and approaching delirium?

Yes I did. Snakes of Christ is a badass song.
Yeah, you should see it to laugh. Fucking Sting is in it. As in Gordon Sumner. The guy who sings Roxanne.
And Patrick Stewart is wasted in it. The movie looks ok, I'll give it that. Especially for 1984. But he changes a lot of shit from the book, and uses this idiotic voiceover from each character way too much. It just shows he can't, you know, be a filmaker and show us what is going on.

Fuck Blue Velvet.
Danzig: Archive De La Morte & Danzig: Il Demonio Nera just went to the top of my Netflix queue.

[BlazeTSU]

christian??? in the cronicles of narnia he portrays god as a huge lion. seems just a little sacraligeous to me

Aslan(the lion in the chronicles of narnia) is a portrayal of Jesus Christ, who is known and refered to as "the lion of the tribe of Judah". on top of that, Lion = King.

And whoever's reading Chuck Palahniuk's Haunted: That "story" by Saint Gut-Free utterly freaked me (the swimming pool thing). I saw the author on a late-night talk show, claiming that something like 60 people, mainly in Italy, oddly, had passed out during his readings of that particular part of the book. I don't doubt it.

yes, that was quite disturbing. every aspect of that one story was quite hideous. the slippery carrot, the rolled up wax, the pool accident.....etc...etc... all i have to say is "Mnye etoh nadoh kahk zoobee zadnetze" aka - "I need that like i need teeth in my asshole"

[andyb]

Aslan(the lion in the chronicles of narnia) is a portrayal of Jesus Christ, who is known and refered to as "the lion of the tribe of Judah". on top of that, Lion = King.

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i dont see how the creator of all the world, the one animal who is all knowing, who sees into the future past and present, is supposed to be jesus.



and david lynch is the biggest piece of shit known to man. his movies (and tb show) are complete bullshit. people who say "you just dont understand" dont understand themselves. the isnt anything to understand. it like trying to explain a dream. there is shit there, but it only lines up to lynch. unless you had the same dream. it doesnt work. and his films dont work.

[BlazeTSU]

Aslan(the lion in the chronicles of narnia) is a portrayal of Jesus Christ, who is known and refered to as "the lion of the tribe of Judah". on top of that, Lion = King.

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i dont see how the creator of all the world, the one animal who is all knowing, who sees into the future past and present, is supposed to be jesus.

Father(God), Son(Jesus) and Holy Spirit make up the Holy Trinity. 3 in one, three distinct personalities of one Godhead. Jesus is the embodiment of the trinity. As i said earlier he is known as the lion of the tribe of judah. Ontop of that the character of Aslan sacrifices himself for the whole of Narnia and is ressurected just as Christ, the lion of the tribe of Judah sacrificed himself for the people of this earth and was ressurected. As far as the knowledge of past, present and future goes, its evident throughout the gospels that Jesus in fact knew all three. the similarities are quite clear.

[andyb]

aslan didnt sacrifice himself for all of narnia, just for edmund. and jesus had certain properties of seeing all three but NO ONE can see into the future, to clain that is one of the highest sins. fortune tellers are supposed to be sent to hell with their heads on backwards so they can only see the past. (dantes inferno)

[ratanda]

Also, David Lynch's adaptation of Dune is shitty.

Personally that's one of my favorite movies. Yes the rain at the end is corny, but overall I really like it, the music too.

Did you see the Sci-Fi Channel's adaptation? I never did and wonder how it is. I think I read bad reviews.

[BlazeTSU]

if you don't understand that aslan sacrificed himself for all of narnia its going to be hard for me to actually have a conversation about things regarding Christ himself.

in one sense aslan indeed sacrificed himself for edmund. but edmund was a key part in the prophecies that were to be fulfilled to overthrow the white witch and save all of narnia. In turn, Aslan's sacrifice was for all of narnia......no offense, but there really isn't much debate about any of this. if you've read the book and know anything about C.S. Lewis or christianity its really obvious.

you can't compare Jesus to a fortune teller. Jesus had foreknowledge........no mysticism was involved. If God is omnipotent and omniscent than Christ is also by rights of the trinity.

[andyb]

hahahahah im not laughin at you, im just laughin at what we are discussing. i can be a bigger man. i admit im wrong, your view does seem a little more plausible. YOU GOT ME FUCKER.

[ratanda]

I just hope you guys didn't ruin the book for me if I ever read it.

[andyb]

its a really good set of books. since the movie is comming out soon, i would suggest gettin it and reading if before the movie ruins it. you know how rare it is that a movie does a book justice.