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[Holiday Rambler]

There's a salary cap in football, so comparing it to the MLB doesn't even make sense. Are you saying that utilizing the free agent market should be some kind of grounds for dismissal now?

Last I checked, building a successful team isn't really a negative thing, unless of course you're a part of or a fan of a losing franchise and just sour grapes. I think the fact that several players took pay cuts to be on this squad says something about the desire to play and win rather than play for cash.

Case in point:

2007 Wide Receiver Salary Cap Numbers for the Best and Worst Teams

PATS / / / / DOLPHINS

Moss 3,001,560 / / / Booker $3,703,000
Stallworth $3,773,386 / / / Camarillo $360,000
Welker $1,706,720 / / / Chambers $7,316,666
Brown $475,000 / / / Ginn $1,760,000
Gaffney $626,700 / / / Hagan $541,150
Washington$1,566,720 / / /
TOTAL 11,150,086 / / / TOTAL: $13,680,816

It's not about the $$$ or being "stacked" (even if a team COULD stack in the NFL), it's about having a coach who is an effective personnel man, and an organization people want to play for.

'06..........

Randy Moss = raiders #1 receiver.......and he's Randy f'n Moss
Donte Stallworth = eagles #1 receiver
Wes Welker = dolphins #1 receiver
Jabar Gafney = emerged as the pats #1 receiver mid year

so........having four #1 receivers on a single team doesn't make a team stacked?

and its not about liking "sour grapes" its just about hating the patriots. i have no problem saying that i'm bias b/c i absolutely hate the patriots and hope that the Giants don't just upset them but blow them out.

Again...I don't see where the 'stacking' or dishonesty or unsportsmanlike conduct or whatever you're implying comes in. That's what teams do in the offseason, they make moves to try and help their organization while following the rules of the cap. The Patriots had money to burn and the best QB in the game, of course they're gonna invest in some receivers, among other positions.

Moss and Welker were talented guys on shit teams. They wanted to play for the Pats and the Pats wanted them on the team. Again, I fail to see how making smart choices in the offseason is something to be looked down upon.

[Holiday Rambler]

'06..........

Randy Moss = raiders #1 receiver.......and he's Randy f'n Moss
Donte Stallworth = eagles #1 receiver
Wes Welker = dolphins #1 receiver
Jabar Gafney = emerged as the pats #1 receiver mid year

so........having four #1 receivers on a single team doesn't make a team stacked?

Also...none of these guys were the #1 receivers for their teams in 2006. Jabar Gaffney only had 11 catches in all of 2006 for the Pats. Not sure where you come up with this shit.

[RichOfSilence]

Ragging on the Yankees is old hat; get over it.
Just because both NY teams are better than the Braves does not mean they suck.

WITH JOHAN SANTANA, THE METS WILL BE UNSTOPPABLE IN 08, BITCHES!
& I will probably get to see Shea Stadium one last time before it's gone - STOKED!

hahaha.....yeah, the mets are waaaaayyyyyyy better than the braves. thats why the mets have won their division twice in the last 20 years as apposed to the braves 14 titles..............and oh yeah, they are in the same division.

You just totally backed up the point sthat the Mets ARE better. Nobody ever said they WERE better.

[Death2all]

It's not about the $$$ or being "stacked" (even if a team COULD stack in the NFL), it's about having a coach who is an effective personnel man, and an organization people want to play for.

One of the few times I agree with Holiday Rambler. I have to say I don't really hate the pat's as much as I hate Tom Brady. You have to give credit where credit is due. NE has definitely done a good job in personnel's dept. Between free agency and the draft there is no denying it. That's why I am excited about the new GM for the falcons.

You just totally backed up the point sthat the Mets ARE better

One of the guys at our shop is a huge UGA fan. He hates it when I tell him that UGA can't compare with the Canes. He gets upset pretty easy about it. His main argument is the one shitty season they have had. Well I have to take him to task on the facts of the U. Like 5 national titles one within this decade. The canes hold the longest winning streak at home and they put more first round and second round draft pick in the NFL than any other college team. He really hates these little gems of truth.

Much like the Canes argument the same can be said about the braves. I will tell you like I tell my cousin (Who is a big Mets fan not some fair weather fan but a true Mets fan). "Dude its ok to have a dream". I just like to bust his chops about it but it's all in fun much like this thread I guess. We usually try to go to at least one Mets vs Braves game a year.

[BlazeTSU]

There's a salary cap in football, so comparing it to the MLB doesn't even make sense. Are you saying that utilizing the free agent market should be some kind of grounds for dismissal now?

Last I checked, building a successful team isn't really a negative thing, unless of course you're a part of or a fan of a losing franchise and just sour grapes. I think the fact that several players took pay cuts to be on this squad says something about the desire to play and win rather than play for cash.

Case in point:

2007 Wide Receiver Salary Cap Numbers for the Best and Worst Teams

PATS / / / / DOLPHINS

Moss 3,001,560 / / / Booker $3,703,000
Stallworth $3,773,386 / / / Camarillo $360,000
Welker $1,706,720 / / / Chambers $7,316,666
Brown $475,000 / / / Ginn $1,760,000
Gaffney $626,700 / / / Hagan $541,150
Washington$1,566,720 / / /
TOTAL 11,150,086 / / / TOTAL: $13,680,816

It's not about the $$$ or being "stacked" (even if a team COULD stack in the NFL), it's about having a coach who is an effective personnel man, and an organization people want to play for.

'06..........

Randy Moss = raiders #1 receiver.......and he's Randy f'n Moss
Donte Stallworth = eagles #1 receiver
Wes Welker = dolphins #1 receiver
Jabar Gafney = emerged as the pats #1 receiver mid year

so........having four #1 receivers on a single team doesn't make a team stacked?

and its not about liking "sour grapes" its just about hating the patriots. i have no problem saying that i'm bias b/c i absolutely hate the patriots and hope that the Giants don't just upset them but blow them out.

Again...I don't see where the 'stacking' or dishonesty or unsportsmanlike conduct or whatever you're implying comes in. That's what teams do in the offseason, they make moves to try and help their organization while following the rules of the cap. The Patriots had money to burn and the best QB in the game, of course they're gonna invest in some receivers, among other positions.

Moss and Welker were talented guys on shit teams. They wanted to play for the Pats and the Pats wanted them on the team. Again, I fail to see how making smart choices in the offseason is something to be looked down upon.

maybe you missed the part when i wrote "i hate the patriots". i'm not obligated to make since when hatred is involved.

[BlazeTSU]

'06..........

Randy Moss = raiders #1 receiver.......and he's Randy f'n Moss
Donte Stallworth = eagles #1 receiver
Wes Welker = dolphins #1 receiver
Jabar Gafney = emerged as the pats #1 receiver mid year

so........having four #1 receivers on a single team doesn't make a team stacked?

Also...none of these guys were the #1 receivers for their teams in 2006. Jabar Gaffney only had 11 catches in all of 2006 for the Pats. Not sure where you come up with this shit.

ah, yeah they were. welker was by far the best and most utilized WR on the dolphins. randy moss is #1 no matter what team he is on. stalworth got hurt but was still the #1 WR on the eagles when he was on the field and jabar gaffney was their best receiver in the post season........maybe mid year was pushing it.

you sounded logical through the entire thread until this post.

[BlazeTSU]

Ragging on the Yankees is old hat; get over it.
Just because both NY teams are better than the Braves does not mean they suck.

WITH JOHAN SANTANA, THE METS WILL BE UNSTOPPABLE IN 08, BITCHES!
& I will probably get to see Shea Stadium one last time before it's gone - STOKED!

hahaha.....yeah, the mets are waaaaayyyyyyy better than the braves. thats why the mets have won their division twice in the last 20 years as apposed to the braves 14 titles..............and oh yeah, they are in the same division.

You just totally backed up the point sthat the Mets ARE better. Nobody ever said they WERE better.

THE BRAVES ARE BETTER THAN THE METS!

[holly]

It's not about the $$$ or being "stacked" (even if a team COULD stack in the NFL), it's about having a coach who is an effective personnel man, and an organization people want to play for.

One of the few times I agree with Holiday Rambler. I have to say I don't really hate the pat's as much as I hate Tom Brady. You have to give credit where credit is due. NE has definitely done a good job in personnel's dept. Between free agency and the draft there is no denying it. That's why I am excited about the new GM for the falcons.

You just totally backed up the point sthat the Mets ARE better

One of the guys at our shop is a huge UGA fan. He hates it when I tell him that UGA can't compare with the Canes. He gets upset pretty easy about it. His main argument is the one shitty season they have had. Well I have to take him to task on the facts of the U. Like 5 national titles one within this decade. The canes hold the longest winning streak at home and they put more first round and second round draft pick in the NFL than any other college team. He really hates these little gems of truth.

Much like the Canes argument the same can be said about the braves. I will tell you like I tell my cousin (Who is a big Mets fan not some fair weather fan but a true Mets fan). "Dude its ok to have a dream". I just like to bust his chops about it but it's all in fun much like this thread I guess. We usually try to go to at least one Mets vs Braves game a year.

For the record, Rich is from New York and has always been a Mets fan.
We went to all but one of the series in Atlanta this past season - the only reason we missed the last one was because it was Labor Day Weekend and we promised my grandparents that we'd visit them in Florida.
I've always liked the Phillies, but the Mets are just a better team and are more fun to watch.

[Death2all]

It's not about the $$$ or being "stacked" (even if a team COULD stack in the NFL), it's about having a coach who is an effective personnel man, and an organization people want to play for.

One of the few times I agree with Holiday Rambler. I have to say I don't really hate the pat's as much as I hate Tom Brady. You have to give credit where credit is due. NE has definitely done a good job in personnel's dept. Between free agency and the draft there is no denying it. That's why I am excited about the new GM for the falcons.

You just totally backed up the point sthat the Mets ARE better

One of the guys at our shop is a huge UGA fan. He hates it when I tell him that UGA can't compare with the Canes. He gets upset pretty easy about it. His main argument is the one shitty season they have had. Well I have to take him to task on the facts of the U. Like 5 national titles one within this decade. The canes hold the longest winning streak at home and they put more first round and second round draft pick in the NFL than any other college team. He really hates these little gems of truth.

Much like the Canes argument the same can be said about the braves. I will tell you like I tell my cousin (Who is a big Mets fan not some fair weather fan but a true Mets fan). "Dude its ok to have a dream". I just like to bust his chops about it but it's all in fun much like this thread I guess. We usually try to go to at least one Mets vs Braves game a year.

For the record, Rich is from New York and has always been a Mets fan.
We went to all but one of the series in Atlanta this past season - the only reason we missed the last one was because it was Labor Day Weekend and we promised my grandparents that we'd visit them in Florida.
I've always liked the Phillies, but the Mets are just a better team and are more fun to watch.

Labor Day Weekend was the last game I went to. From time to time we get free tickets through our shop in the Lexus level. Last time I was there it was fucking hot. We ended up leaving by the 7th inning stretch the game was pretty much over by then anyway. Oh and I wasn't really questioning Rich's fanhood.

[RichOfSilence]

We'll be at every Mets game at Turner this year if anybody wants to go!

[BlazeTSU]

It's not about the $$$ or being "stacked" (even if a team COULD stack in the NFL), it's about having a coach who is an effective personnel man, and an organization people want to play for.

One of the few times I agree with Holiday Rambler. I have to say I don't really hate the pat's as much as I hate Tom Brady. You have to give credit where credit is due. NE has definitely done a good job in personnel's dept. Between free agency and the draft there is no denying it. That's why I am excited about the new GM for the falcons.

You just totally backed up the point sthat the Mets ARE better

One of the guys at our shop is a huge UGA fan. He hates it when I tell him that UGA can't compare with the Canes. He gets upset pretty easy about it. His main argument is the one shitty season they have had. Well I have to take him to task on the facts of the U. Like 5 national titles one within this decade. The canes hold the longest winning streak at home and they put more first round and second round draft pick in the NFL than any other college team. He really hates these little gems of truth.

Much like the Canes argument the same can be said about the braves. I will tell you like I tell my cousin (Who is a big Mets fan not some fair weather fan but a true Mets fan). "Dude its ok to have a dream". I just like to bust his chops about it but it's all in fun much like this thread I guess. We usually try to go to at least one Mets vs Braves game a year.

For the record, Rich is from New York and has always been a Mets fan.
We went to all but one of the series in Atlanta this past season - the only reason we missed the last one was because it was Labor Day Weekend and we promised my grandparents that we'd visit them in Florida.
I've always liked the Phillies, but the Mets are just a better team and are more fun to watch.

brown-noser!

i bet you guys had a harmonious end of the season last year.

We'll be at every Mets game at Turner this year if anybody wants to go!

Renee and I would love to meet up for a game or two.

[ProstheticHead12]

UGA is far better than Miami. Where exactly did Miami finish this year?

[Death2all]

UGA is far better than Miami. Where exactly did Miami finish this year?

How many national titles does UGA have? When was the last time they actually went to the big game? I am fully aware of how Miami finished last season. The point I was making is that if you take a look at both teams for the past 30 years you can see there is no comparison the U is better than UGA. Don't get me wrong UGA has a great team now and will be in the best position when the rankings come out. Like I tell my friend at work you better enjoy it while you can because the U is coming back. Look at the recruiting class this year for the U. Coker really fucked us good by not recruiting in the hotbed of talent that is South Florida. This year we have added a lot more depth in some of the key positions we were are lacking in. Part of that problem was Coker. Larry didn't even recruit a QB for the three years there. Randy Shannon will turn this program around. The true test of a good team is if you can make adjustments after a bad year and come back to national prominence. Mark my words the U will reinstate its self as one of the elite college programs in the nation.

There is one other thing I like would to remind you. The last 9 times the U has played UF we have beat them. Up until this past year not even UGA could boast of that.

I hope that UGA does go to the national title game the next few years. We may get a chance to see these two teams compete.

[ProstheticHead12]

............Go DAWGS!

[Brian]

............Go DAWGS!

aw hell naw