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Post by DarkWolfen » Thu December 9th, 2004, 6:36 pm

Its weird I have the same opinion on the guy as Dan, Greg and EJ. In high school I listened to them non-stop, Far Beyond Driven, TGSTK, and Vulgar it was the product and solution to my anarchy, anger and ridicule. I gave up listening to them after TGSTK and never looked back much besides for the Down projects, but that was more Phil than dimebag, I had heard fo Damageplan but didn't know anything really about them, but they did tour here in Atlanta didn't they?

A what became a true metal teenager story looking back. In 1995, I got into a verbal fight with my mom and we lived in a one story house and my closet wall connected to the family room wall. On the family room wall my mom's accolades and plaques and shit. Anyways, I got so pissed at her I banged on that closet wall and he precious 18 years of her honored work at the PTA fall off the wall and was dented when it hit the floor. Even today that dent is still there. :lol:
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Post by soulvoid » Thu December 9th, 2004, 7:02 pm

This is really sad, While I was never a huge Damage Plan fan , I dug the hell outta Pantera's 1st three (HEAVY) albums. It is truly sad to see this happen to anyone , much less someone who had so much going for them. It's to bad that the gunman was shot and killed. I think it would have much more to fit to make him live a life sentence without parole and make him listen to DamagePlan 24 hours a day as a constant reminder as to what he has done. A mural of the other victims would be a nice touch as well. May he rot in hell. :FU:

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Post by WuDi, w/o competition » Thu December 9th, 2004, 9:05 pm

The saddest part isn't that he died, or even the way he died. Although, as a side note, that's pretty fucked up. Why target...Dimebag? The "Brothers Pantera" were always 100% behind the music, and fully supportive of the metal scene, the alternative hard-and-heavy-party-till-you-puke lifestyle...
The saddest part is that it's only a footnote. Rather than dive in depth into a slaying like that of Tupac Shakur, or even Kurt GoBang, Dimebag's murder isn't even going to get it's alloted fifteen minutes. Just pisses me off how it all went down, and since the gunman was shot, how are we going to know what the reason for it all was? I want some fucking answers, dammit.

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Post by DarkWolfen » Thu December 9th, 2004, 9:20 pm

And BoB, was this really the right time to change your avatar to whosyourfroggy? :D
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Post by BoB » Thu December 9th, 2004, 10:07 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-DarkWolfen+Dec 9 2004, 09:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DarkWolfen @ Dec 9 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And BoB, was this really the right time to change your avatar to whosyourfroggy? :D [/quote]
dude, you just changed yours to "death".... <_< mkay....

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Post by Greg » Thu December 9th, 2004, 11:25 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-WuDi+ w/o competition,Dec 9 2004, 09:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (WuDi &#064; w/o competition,Dec 9 2004, 09:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The saddest part is that it's only a footnote. Rather than dive in depth into a slaying like that of Tupac Shakur, or even Kurt GoBang, Dimebag's murder isn't even going to get it's alloted fifteen minutes. Just pisses me off how it all went down, and since the gunman was shot, how are we going to know what the reason for it all was? I want some fucking answers, dammit. [/quote]
Actually I've seen this reported off and on all day on all the news channels.

You're kinda right though, it's gonna get plenty of press because of how and where it happened, not because of who got shot like the other high-profile musical deaths you mentioned. So far all they know about the gunman is he was 25 and an ex-marine, and that his actions wre probably pre-meditated since he waited until they came out on stage to start shooting.

It will probably open up a whole can of worms again about how metal music is "evil" and "satanic" and it makes people do things like this, similar to what happened with Marilyn Manson and the Doom games after Columbine. That's another big thing that stunned me... Damageplan is jock rock more or less, there's pretty much nothing evil or satanic about it, yet something as horrifically evil as this happened there. This is the kind of thing you'd have expected at a black metal concert in Norway 15 years ago, not in middle America in 2004.

On a lighter note it was funny to hear people on CNN, Fox News, etc. keep saying "Dimebag" on the air all day. I doubt they know what it means. :lol:

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Post by BoB » Thu December 9th, 2004, 11:40 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Greg+Dec 9 2004, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Greg &#064; Dec 9 2004, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It will probably open up a whole can of worms again about how metal music is "evil" and "satanic" and it makes people do things like this, similar to what happened with Marilyn Manson and the Doom games after Columbine.&nbsp; That's another big thing that stunned me... [/quote]
Oh that already happened about 4 hours ago. The ABC national news had a couple minutes on this. About 20% of the time covered the shooting incident, the rest talked about violence in heavy metal music. They showed some documentary (high school project?) of some douchebags in someone's basement with a little pit & some super douche throwing punches (the shot also shows a guy in the small crowd that looked a lot like Greg laughing at the punching). That's the news...

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Post by DarkWolfen » Fri December 10th, 2004, 4:59 am

<!--QuoteBegin-bobnoxious+Dec 9 2004, 10:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bobnoxious &#064; Dec 9 2004, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DarkWolfen+Dec 9 2004, 09:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DarkWolfen &#064; Dec 9 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And BoB, was this really the right time to change your avatar to whosyourfroggy? :D [/quote]
dude, you just changed yours to "death".... <_< mkay.... [/quote]
True, but I changed it earlier in the day. When Dimebag wasn't in a body bag. :sm0k3: :ph34r: :ev1l: Plus it looks more like Peter Steele as a zomibie than anything else. :lol:
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Post by DarkWolfen » Fri December 10th, 2004, 5:29 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Greg+Dec 9 2004, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Greg &#064; Dec 9 2004, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> On a lighter note it was funny to hear people on CNN, Fox News, etc. keep saying "Dimebag" on the air all day.&nbsp; I doubt they know what it means.&nbsp; :lol: [/quote]
That was quite funny to see Martha McCallum on Fox News say with a straight face, "Dimebag Darell."

Greg, if they blame metal so what? Its because Pantera was the metal byproduct of MTV that this got any coverage at all. If this had been Dimmu Borgir or Death Angel, you think they would have spent half a mind on what happened besides what a terrible act of violence it was? No. What will happen metal is primarily underground in America, if they say its because of metal that he blew away Dimebag then who fuckin cares? If they want to blame anyone blame that he was in the military and was trained to kill without constitution, that he was a loner with probably mental illness. Who had nothing going on in his life that gave him an alternative to kill. What those people don't understand is it isn't metal that makes people kill its themselves that kill. But the reason they always blame the music or the video games or the movies is because they always want to blame the art form because most of these fuckers couldn't artistically create themselves out of a fuckin paper bag, so they take everything verbatim. But they hardly ever blame the guy for the porn he was watching, for some reason that hits a more primitive nerve that even those conservatives can't bash without feeling like they are bashing themselves. :lol:

Oh and Bob, ABC would cover a story about a dog shooting a kitten to death, because they are notoriously anti-gun. So these kinds of acts of violence gets their motor running. I say if a guy committed suicide in Anchorage, AK because he was alone and depressed it wouldn't get a headline. But people do it all the time, when Martha McCallum was talking to Tommy Lee and Nikki Sixx today and asked them if they were going to step up security, they had no answer but to dodge it. But I won't dodge it, a guy shooting and killing anyone at a concert is like a plane crashing. Yeah it can happen, and yeah you are going to die, but will those 2 points of departure transpire at your given time? Thus its an isolated incident, not a trend like the news media was claiming it could become. If it gets bad enough, those fuckin cheap ass clubs need to get off their ass and get a metal detector. They put more fuckin money into lighting than security. I guess so when you are lying bleeding to death your buddy can see the blood more clearly saturating your shirt. But it is an isolated incident, Dan said how easy it is to bring a gun to the Masq, but it is equally easy to go to a braves game and get slaughtered in a driveby, but for now these things aren't happening. So I say until our world becomes a cesspool of violent assholes that pick any chance and time to kill randomly then just enjoy because you ain't going to find a candy colored paradise in the end its just a dreamless sleep. But that time your medulla won't wake you for the day. :ev1l:

Okay I am off my soapbox and tired of the coverage of Dimebag. :m1c:

Moreover one thing Juliya from Uranium was on Fox News and damn if that wasn't one hot goth chick. I would like a little "erotic bondage" with her. :D
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Post by TheKshatriya » Fri December 10th, 2004, 1:04 pm

I personally dont think adding metal detectors or more security will do a thing.

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Post by DarkWolfen » Fri December 10th, 2004, 11:04 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-TheKshatriya+Dec 10 2004, 01:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheKshatriya @ Dec 10 2004, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I personally dont think adding metal detectors or more security will do a thing. [/quote]
Yeah because people are inherently evil and will find a fuckin way to assert their ego onto another's. If it be by moshing or by murder. :m1c: :ch41n:
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Post by WuDi, w/o competition » Sat December 11th, 2004, 12:46 am

Right track on Juliya. I would bag that black-eyeliner-bitch with a fishing net if I had to.

M'daddy always was fond o' sayin' "I'd eat a yard o' shit just to smell her pussy".

(Can the media blame this 'rampant vulgarity' on heavy metal as well?)

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Post by BlazeTSU » Sat December 11th, 2004, 10:00 pm

this sucks! i didn't even find out until today! i dont' have cable and i never listen to the radio so i had no clue until someone told me at my job.

theres no one that could have deserved it less then dimebag! he was laid back and super cool, just playing music and having a good time.

sad times

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Post by WREKage-Paul » Sun December 12th, 2004, 3:18 am

Yeah :(


I only met Dime once or twice, but Tim knew him pretty well, and he's always said Darrell was a straight-up nice guy. It's tragic that once again, someone who didn't deserve to take an early train out, got shoved into the baggage car in a body bag.


Metalheads don't kill people. Fucked up people kill people.



Oh, apparently Vinnie was the guy who the assailant was holding hostage when the cop shot the assailant. I'd watch THAT part of the video over and over and over again.



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Post by Chris Masochist » Sun December 12th, 2004, 12:29 pm

Here is a pic that I found when Phil had called Dimebag "a brother, the best of the best"

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