sludge in the south paper

theRothstanator · Post by **theRothstanator** » Tue September 13th, 2011, 11:53 pm

So, I am trying to write a paper about sludge. I specifically need to look at the growth and popularity of sludge in the south. I need to try to explain why the south is a good breeding ground for sludge bands and need to highlight some distinctly southern aspects of the genre (it is for a grad level research class so I have to answer a question). I am so pissed off that Slow Southern Steel still hasn't had a screening around here because this would really help me figure some shit out and I am having a super hard time finding sources. I am thinking that I am going to have to dig through lyrics and interviews and maybe try to ask some band members some questions. I just don't even know where to start and I would appreciate suggestions/guidance. I also don't have the hugest legit library with cd booklets that have lyrics so maybe someone could let me dig through their collection? I might just give up and do something else, but thought that this would be an interesting subject. HELP!

GameFreac · Post by **GameFreac** » Wed September 14th, 2011, 1:31 am

I was gonna say Slow Southern Steel would be good but it's not gonna be on dvd for awhile.

I guess you could go to DarkLyrics.com for a little help.

slut rag · Post by **slut rag** » Wed September 14th, 2011, 8:21 am

i want to see slow southern steel so fucking bad. i thought it was going to have a screening in atlanta pretty soon since the movie has been finished and shown in other cities already.

seriously, a movie about sludge from the south...was premiered in fucking new york city, i believe. pisses me off a little.

Post by **Brian** » Wed September 14th, 2011, 8:24 am

One of the leading factors is that the south has a lot more beards than other parts of the country.

Strange · Post by **Strange** » Wed September 14th, 2011, 10:13 am

For one thing, this is where it originated (Sabbath aside). For me it all started with Crowbar and just kinda crept out of NOLA and spread from there. Kinda like the NY hardcore scene has it's own kind of identity, the Sludge thing is much the same. I'm also going to venture that the use of weed and whiskey (to the point of being a lifestyle) contributes as much as the look or sound.

If you know any of the Parabellum guys you should really talk to one of them (either Todd or Shane...I can put you in touch with them if you'd like). I'm sure they have more concise thoughts on the matter than I could provide and they are the real deal. They've been around a while and have toured all over the southeast for nothing but the love of doing it.

"I ain't just whistlin' dixie. I knock 'em back and drink 'em down
I got the devil in me and the whiskey just brings it out."

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Wed September 14th, 2011, 1:26 pm

early NOLA scene. Crowbar, EYEHATEGOD, Acid Bath. But essentially a departure and subgenre of doom metal.

badcarburetor · Post by **badcarburetor** » Wed September 14th, 2011, 1:27 pm

Try contacting the film makers directly, that would be even better than watching the flick for a grad level paper, IMHO.

From a Blabbermouth article: ...executive-produced by Karim Khan (I'm Better Than Everyone Records) and directed by RWAKE vocalist CT and David Lipke with the additional and integral assistance of George Hancock, Alix Petrovich and BEER WOLF guitarist Christian Sweeney (who will be releasing a paperback version of the production)."

Those folks can't be too hard to track down through FB.

I would also try to interview the genre's patron saint, Mike Williams. I'm pretty sure dude loves to talk, if he's in shape to do so.

My opinion is much like Strange's. Weed, whiskey and fucking HUMIDITY mixed with slow sounds, poverty and devil vs god traditions of Delta blues are all large parts of the genre's primordial roots.

Should make an interesting paper. Link it up when you're done. What's your program, if you don't mind my asking.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Wed September 14th, 2011, 1:29 pm

actually mike williams doesnt like eyehategod being catagorized as sludge. i mean whether it is or it isnt, they were innovators of the genre.

theRothstanator · Post by **theRothstanator** » Wed September 14th, 2011, 2:12 pm

Thanks guys. Yeah, I guess I am gonna have to interview people. I kinda know a bit about the history already, it's just hard to find any sources to cite to back up what I am saying. I need to get in touch with the dude from Rwake and Karim, but they don't have a very strong internet presence. Karim's record label website has been down forever

Yeah, I am pissed that the doc has been screened in other parts of the country but not in the south yet. I guess I am gonna try to brainstorm questions of what I should ask. Suggestions would be appreciated, too.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Wed September 14th, 2011, 10:18 pm

well most sludge is an expansion of doom metal with southern rock influences. almost a 2nd wave of black sabbath worship, first wave being bands like saint vitus, pentagram, witchmaster general, trouble, etc

V-GER · Post by **V-GER** » Fri September 16th, 2011, 12:16 am

The Melvins started it all, enough said!

Knucklehead · Post by **Knucklehead** » Fri September 16th, 2011, 8:30 am

V-GER wrote:The Melvins started it all, enough said!

"Boris knows. And Boris likes it all."

Acidic Consumption · Post by **Acidic Consumption** » Fri September 16th, 2011, 11:41 am

theRothstanator wrote:So, I am trying to write a paper about sludge. I specifically need to look at the growth and popularity of sludge in the south. I need to try to explain why the south is a good breeding ground for sludge bands and need to highlight some distinctly southern aspects of the genre (it is for a grad level research class so I have to answer a question). I am so pissed off that Slow Southern Steel still hasn't had a screening around here because this would really help me figure some shit out and I am having a super hard time finding sources. I am thinking that I am going to have to dig through lyrics and interviews and maybe try to ask some band members some questions. I just don't even know where to start and I would appreciate suggestions/guidance. I also don't have the hugest legit library with cd booklets that have lyrics so maybe someone could let me dig through their collection? I might just give up and do something else, but thought that this would be an interesting subject. HELP!

cool..let me know when u get this done..would like to read it...i'll be on the lookout for Slow Southern Steel as well.

ScreamBloodyGore · Post by **ScreamBloodyGore** » Fri September 16th, 2011, 11:53 am

You should try logging on to Titty.com.

slut rag · Post by **slut rag** » Thu September 29th, 2011, 9:15 am

slow southern steel posted something on I_LOVE_ZUCKERPENIS today:

Slow Southern Steel
We are planning a big tour for the movie to try and get it played in
as many cities as we can for as many people to see. We are still working
out the details. Below are tentative dates and cities. Venues are not
locked into place yet. Please be patient. We will post more info as soon
as details become final.

Nov 4 - Charlotte, NC
Nov 5 - Wilmington. VA
Nov 7 - Atlanta, GA
Nov 8 - Orlando/Tampa, FL
Nov 9 - Tampa/Orlando, FL
Nov 10 - Tallahasee, FL
Nov 11 - New Orleans, LA
Nov 12 - Austin. TX
Nov 13 - Houston. TX
Nov 15 - Oklahoma City, OK
Nov 16 - Albuquerque, NM
Nov 17 - Arizona
Nov 18 - So Cal
Nov 19 - San Diego, Cal
Nov 20 - Los Angeles, Cal
Nov 21 - San Francisco, Cal
Nov 26 - Seattle, WA
Nov 28 - Salt Lake City, UT
Nov 29 - Denver, CO
Nov 30 - Kansas City

Dec 1 - St Paul, MN
Dec 4 - St Louis, MO
Dec 5 - Memphis, TN
Dec 6 - Little Rock, AR
Dec 7 - Nashville, TN
Dec 8 - Newport, RI
Dec 9 - Chicago, Ill
Dec 10 - Ohio
Dec 12 - Boston, Mass
Dec 13 - New York City
Dec 14 - Philly
Dec 15 - Baltimore, MA
Dec 16 - Richmond, VA
Dec 17 - NC

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