the DEFINITION OF METAL thread

Post by **BlazeTSU** » Fri September 9th, 2005, 12:40 pm

it seems to be a hot topic lately.........what do you guys thing?

this is what i think....

so, i'm not into trying to give a "definition" of metal. like i've said before, if you are confused about what is and what isn't metal, you aren't metal at all. i will say that metalcore isn't metal. trendy styles of heavy music such as nu-metal, metalcore, rap-core......etc. are not metal! there are some pretty good metalcore bands out there, they just put out all their good albums years ago. before every band in the genre started ripping off at the gates and then ultimately regurgitating all the same riffs with annoying screams as the vocals.

but, like i said.....if theres debate about a band and whether or not its metal than its not metal. doesn't make them suck..........just makes them not metal.

Post by **BoB** » Fri September 9th, 2005, 2:01 pm

Matt wrote:heres my definition of real metal and i think donny will agree with me on this...... try listening to morbid angel. thats real metal.

"real metal" was around when Morbid Angel were still in diapers (and I'm not talking about their homo tour bus antics). tho I will say they easily pass the "real metal" test.

For me "real metal" encompasses classic metal (Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden), death metal (Possessed), black metal (Venom), thrash & speed metal (Metallica) and progressive metal. I don't really grok a lot of the newer shit...

Death2all · Post by **Death2all** » Fri September 9th, 2005, 2:56 pm

if you are confused about what is and what isn't metal, you aren't metal at all

I am pretty sure I left high school shit behind along time ago not trying to be a dick just seems like its that way on here your not in the metal click so your not cool which I could careless I was just wondering but thanks for the def

TheKshatriya · Post by **TheKshatriya** » Fri September 9th, 2005, 3:03 pm

Metal is the most extreme type of music there is. I agree with Blaze in saying metalcore, nu metal, rap metal, ect. isnt metal. Because I think metal has something else, its kind of like a life style or something else, I dont know, maybe you cant explain it. And those kind of bands just dont have it. There are quite a few bands iv noticed on the atlmetal site that are not metal one bit, but this isnt a thread about that so I wont get into that.

Death2all · Post by **Death2all** » Fri September 9th, 2005, 3:32 pm

To tell you the truth I don't think it really matters I lump it all into metal instead of trying to label everything this is just my opinion

andyb · Post by **andyb** » Fri September 9th, 2005, 4:47 pm

it seems to me that most "metal heads" call a band "not metal" when they dont like them. split it up, its not true metal because this band does this or that. metal is a genre. not a definition. i place any bands that are heavy as shit into the "metal" catagory. the only reason i ever use "death metal" "speed metal" "tech-metal" or any others, is simply to describe what the band sounds like. thats just my opinion, i try to have a open mind. if i like a band, i like it. simple. if i dont like it. i dont say its because its "nu-metal" i say its because that band sucks.

Greg · Post by **Greg** » Fri September 9th, 2005, 6:38 pm

BlazeTSU wrote:it seems to be a hot topic lately.........

HOT TOPIC IS NOT METAL YOU FAGGOT RAAAARGH

ATLmetal.com · Post by **ATLmetal.com** » Fri September 9th, 2005, 7:08 pm

Death2all wrote:To tell you the truth I don't think it really matters I lump it all into metal instead of trying to label everything this is just my opinion

Agreed!

Also, I think "Heavy Music" should just be left at that "Heavy Music". I don't understand what the big deal is with trying to, like Death said, "label" a band? Why can't it just be "Heavy Music" and either you like the band/bands or you don't? This whole "labeling" thing gets people so pissed off at each other and at bands for calling themselves something that someone thinks they are not. As far as I am concerned, I don't try to "label" any bands whatsoever. If I like the band/bands I listen to them, if I don't like them then I don't listen to them. I honestly think people see what a band is labeling themselves as or what they have been labeled as and not even giving them a chance. Just kinda sucks if you ask me. Oh well, just my thoughts on the topic. Anyone else care to comment?

Later,
Jeremy

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Sat September 10th, 2005, 1:42 am

BoB wrote:
Matt wrote:heres my definition of real metal and i think donny will agree with me on this...... try listening to morbid angel. thats real metal.
"real metal" was around when Morbid Angel were still in diapers (and I'm not talking about their homo tour bus antics). tho I will say they easily pass the "real metal" test.

For me "real metal" encompasses classic metal (Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden), death metal (Possessed), black metal (Venom), thrash & speed metal (Metallica) and progressive metal. I don't really grok a lot of the newer shit...

hahaha you used grok.

Post by **BlazeTSU** » Sat September 10th, 2005, 10:21 am

but, like i said.....if theres debate about a band and whether or not its metal than its not metal. doesn't make them suck..........just makes them not metal.

as shown here i stated that something "not" being metal doesn't make it suck. matter of fact i listen to a lot of other genres and bands......i listen to a lot of "non" metal music..... hank III, clutch, alice in chains, nick cave, tom waits....the list goes on.

like neal said....metal is a lifestyle. thats why we give a damn about what is called metal and what isn't. and its not a deal of a click. i hang out with a lot of folks who aren't into metal at all and i could care less............i just don't like people thinking they are metal b/c they listen to something like ICP or dope or some garbage like that

and Death2all, this thread was basically started b/c of you constantly asking people what they think metal is. and like you, i'm not trying to be a dick but you can't act "above" the thread.

TheKshatriya · Post by **TheKshatriya** » Sun September 11th, 2005, 2:59 am

Iron Maiden is the greatest band ever, metal and not metal.

Post by **BoB** » Sun September 11th, 2005, 7:17 am

met?al
n.
1. Abbr. M Any of a category of electropositive elements that usually have a shiny surface, are generally good conductors of heat and electricity, and can be melted or fused, hammered into thin sheets, or drawn into wires. Typical metals form salts with nonmetals, basic oxides with oxygen, and alloys with one another.
2. An alloy of two or more metallic elements.
3. An object made of metal.
4. Basic character; mettle.
5. Broken stones used for road surfaces or railroad beds.
6. Molten glass, especially when used in glassmaking.
7. Molten cast iron.
8. Printing. Type made of metal.
9. Music. Heavy metal.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Mon September 12th, 2005, 12:51 am

yeah Iron Maiden is my favorite band.

Death2all · Post by **Death2all** » Mon September 12th, 2005, 8:05 am

To me I think everyone has there on def of what heavy metal is thats why I ask. I don't know however about the heavy metal lifestyle though I think its more of an image than anything else.

LEVELATLANTA · Post by **LEVELATLANTA** » Tue September 13th, 2005, 10:03 am

BoB wrote:met?al
n.
9. Music. Heavy metal.

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