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Knucklehead · Post by **Knucklehead** » Tue September 15th, 2009, 1:59 pm

VOEGTLIN wrote:Yeah. The songwriting experiences a pretty steep drop off after RTL. I can't even listen to MOP anymore.

It hasn't gotten that bad for me. I do have a hard time listening to ... And Justice, though. It is the sound that still kills it for me, twenty years later.

VOEGTLIN · Post by **VOEGTLIN** » Tue September 15th, 2009, 2:35 pm

It's a weird digression for Rasmussen. RTL is a thick sounding record. AJFA is about as thin as it gets. Five years later he was back to that thick sound with Morbid Angel's Covenant.

Post by **Metalfreak** » Tue September 15th, 2009, 8:57 pm

Knucklehead wrote:
VOEGTLIN wrote:Yeah. The songwriting experiences a pretty steep drop off after RTL. I can't even listen to MOP anymore.
It hasn't gotten that bad for me. .

yeah it hasn't for me either...never has and probably never will (for MOP) ...the later stuff ('90s) is meh. and of course St. Anger was atrocious.

VOEGTLIN · Post by **VOEGTLIN** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 7:27 am

I listen to the first two all the time though.... There's the trade-off, I guess.

V-GER · Post by **V-GER** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 9:03 am

I grew up on Metallica and had the first 3 on vinyl. Of those, RTL is their best in my opinion and has the best sound production and MOP is a close second. As far as AJFA, the non existent bass doesn't really bother me and still enjoy listening to it. The black album has some good songs. Load and reload are crap. St. Anger has some good songs also and the tin can drums don't bother me.

Post by **Metalfreak** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 9:46 am

V-GER wrote:I grew up on Metallica and had the first 3 on vinyl. Of those, RTL is their best in my opinion and has the best sound production and MOP is a close second. As far as AJFA, the non existent bass doesn't really bother me and still enjoy listening to it. The black album has some good songs. Load and reload are crap. St. Anger has some good songs also and the tin can drums don't bother me.

I have MOP on vinyl. and all early records on tape (inc. 5.98 ep) and CD haha (inc. boxset). I have EVERYTHING else on CD too (yeah, including St. Anger...I bought it the day it was released not knowing what I was getting myself into lol). I do like some of their 90s stuff but I certainly don't consider it metal ofcourse, just heavy rock. I do like Death Magnetic though. I was rather impressed with that one.

Knucklehead · Post by **Knucklehead** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 10:47 am

VOEGTLIN wrote:It's a weird digression for Rasmussen. RTL is a thick sounding record. AJFA is about as thin as it gets.

Huh. I never realized that he was involved with MOP and AJFA.

I bought MOP shortly after it came out, on vinyl. I have to say, I didn't really like the sound at first, and it took some getting used to. (The sound on AJFA, by contrast, did not bother me all that much at first. I was just excited to have a new record.)

I can't help comparing the sound of MOP with RIB, released the same freakin' year. To my ears, RIB still sounds fresh, and I think it is mostly because the vocals aren't reverbed out, unlike MOP. The reverb or delay or whatever on the vocals makes it sound very dated, very mid-'80's, IMHO,

Which is pretty funny, because back in the day, I listened to Metallica 20 times as much as Slayer. The inverse is now true, as I very rarely listen to Metallica and pull RIB or SOH out quite regularly.

V-GER · Post by **V-GER** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 11:33 am

Metalfreak wrote:
V-GER wrote:I grew up on Metallica and had the first 3 on vinyl. Of those, RTL is their best in my opinion and has the best sound production and MOP is a close second. As far as AJFA, the non existent bass doesn't really bother me and still enjoy listening to it. The black album has some good songs. Load and reload are crap. St. Anger has some good songs also and the tin can drums don't bother me.
I have MOP on vinyl. and all early records on tape (inc. 5.98 ep) and CD haha (inc. boxset). I have EVERYTHING else on CD too (yeah, including St. Anger...I bought it the day it was released not knowing what I was getting myself into lol). I do like some of their 90s stuff but I certainly don't consider it metal ofcourse, just heavy rock. I do like Death Magnetic though. I was rather impressed with that one.

Do you have 1st pressing CD of Garage Days Revisited and Creeping Death EP? I do..................

Also have Live Binge and Purge boxset! As far as Death Magnetic, I like it alot and is back to form along the lines of AJFA.

VOEGTLIN · Post by **VOEGTLIN** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 11:41 am

Yeah, he worked in the engineer/producer limbo capacity. Maybe there's an interview - or interviews - that explain what decisions were his and what decisions were the band's.

A lot of Rubin's production is fuckin wicked:

RIB
AC/DC's Ballbreaker
The Cult's Electric
Danzig's S/T

All killer sounding records.

Knucklehead · Post by **Knucklehead** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 12:18 pm

VOEGTLIN wrote:A lot of Rubin's production is fuckin wicked:

RIB
...
Danzig's S/T

All killer sounding records.

I had forgotten about the first Danzig -- it really does sound good, from drums to vocals. That was the only one I ever bought, because I thought he got a little cheesy after that.

But that first album is magic.

VOEGTLIN · Post by **VOEGTLIN** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 12:32 pm

S/T rules and then, you're right, it's all Gouda.

Knucklehead · Post by **Knucklehead** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 1:21 pm

VOEGTLIN wrote:then, you're right, it's all Gouda.

Ha! I thought that I was the only that used that phrase.

Vhyle · Post by **Vhyle** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 3:49 pm

But then Rubin did Seasons in the Abyss, which sounds like rancid ass. The guitars sound like plastic.

Post by **Metalfreak** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 7:30 pm

V-GER wrote:
Metalfreak wrote:
V-GER wrote:I grew up on Metallica and had the first 3 on vinyl. Of those, RTL is their best in my opinion and has the best sound production and MOP is a close second. As far as AJFA, the non existent bass doesn't really bother me and still enjoy listening to it. The black album has some good songs. Load and reload are crap. St. Anger has some good songs also and the tin can drums don't bother me.
I have MOP on vinyl. and all early records on tape (inc. 5.98 ep) and CD haha (inc. boxset). I have EVERYTHING else on CD too (yeah, including St. Anger...I bought it the day it was released not knowing what I was getting myself into lol). I do like some of their 90s stuff but I certainly don't consider it metal ofcourse, just heavy rock. I do like Death Magnetic though. I was rather impressed with that one.
Do you have 1st pressing CD of Garage Days Revisited and Creeping Death EP? I do.................. Also have Live Binge and Purge boxset! As far as Death Magnetic, I like it alot and is back to form along the lines of AJFA.

yeah I have that boxset (the one that comes with dvds, not vhs), I have the Creaping Death ep too!

I don't know if it's the first pressing...probably is, I got it from Wax n Fax...I seem to run across some rarities in there from time to time. It's also where I got the 5.98 ep tape. about the garage days revisited...you're not talking about the double disk set are you? I have that one.

Knucklehead · Post by **Knucklehead** » Wed September 16th, 2009, 8:41 pm

Metalfreak wrote:about the garage days revisited...you're not talking about the double disk set are you

Garage Days Revisited is the Creeping Death E.P.

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