Pete Sandoval playing Mozart

ratanda · Post by **ratanda** » Mon September 24th, 2012, 9:23 am

stewvee · Post by **stewvee** » Mon September 24th, 2012, 3:45 pm

Dude's a freak. There's Sandoval, Hoglan, Lombardo... and then it's a steep drop off.

Pat · Post by **Pat** » Mon September 24th, 2012, 3:52 pm

What do you mean by steep drop off?

If you mean sheer ability, then no way. Kollias, Proscriptor, Flo, Doc, Roddy are all probably "better" drummers.

But if you want to talk drumming influence regarding super fast double bass and blast beats around 250 BPM, then yeah Sandoval reigns.

badcarburetor · Post by **badcarburetor** » Mon September 24th, 2012, 4:09 pm

Pat wrote:What do you mean by steep drop off?

He means oooooolllldd guys.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon September 24th, 2012, 4:22 pm

Pat wrote:Sandoval reigns.

stewvee · Post by **stewvee** » Mon September 24th, 2012, 8:08 pm

Pat wrote: But if you want to talk drumming influence regarding super fast double bass and blast beats around 250 BPM, then yeah Sandoval reigns.

You don't listen to a lot of Morbid Angel, do you?

Pat · Post by **Pat** » Tue September 25th, 2012, 11:21 am

Nope, I don't play drums either.

Pete's fast as fuck. And his blast beats/double bass were cleaner and faster than pretty much everybody's. No shit Morbid Angel has plenty of slow songs/riffs.

I said he was influential.

From an interview with Tony Laureano:

Maelstrom: Who influenced you to start playing? What was it like picking up playing drums?

Tony Laureano: Mostly, the music that I listened to and what drove it. I loved fast thrash and death metal, and the drumming was very driving in terms of pushing the music. Gene Hoglan of Dark Angel, and Dave Lombardo of Slayer were the first real influences I had, and they are still my favorite drummers to this day. Pete Sandoval was another drummer that was very influential when I first started playing, because he was the first to do the blast beat cleanly, no one else at the time could do it anywhere near as good.

From an interview with Richard Christy:

...When I heard Dave Lombardo from Slayer I was just blown away by the double bass. When I heard Reign In Blood I was totally blown away. Dave Lombardo and Pete Sandoval are the first two really extreme drummers that blew me away with their speed. That's when I wanted to start building up my speed and play double bass...Pete Sandoval was the first drummer I ever heard play a blast beat, and I was totally blown away by that when I heard it in high school.

stewvee · Post by **stewvee** » Wed September 26th, 2012, 7:00 am

that's the last thing i take from those guys though. their fills and breakdowns are a lot more interesting than double kick.

Knucklehead · Post by **Knucklehead** » Wed September 26th, 2012, 9:31 am

And I imagine you think Neil Peart is a drum god...

Anyway, this raises some interesting issues, I think. There's no getting around that the bass drum roll is integral to metal. The first roll I remember hearing was in "Fight Fire with Fire" and I was totally entranced with it. (Sitting alone in my parents' basement like a stooge, mouth agape and pimply.) The fills are fine and dandy, but the bass drum roll has historically been bread and butter of metal drumming, no?

I guess blasting on the snare has taken over the role of the bass drum roll. Personally, I think blasting is over used. That shit is just too loud, too often, in the mix and I can't hear anything else that's going on with the drums, other than snares on the drum head.

Either way, though, blasting or bass drum roll, the function is to move the music along, yes? To impart speed and energy? And doesn't that mean that fills are small flourishes, to add color to the drums? Unlike the prog-rock drummers, who are focussing on fills because they are Musicians and Gods?

Pat · Post by **Pat** » Wed September 26th, 2012, 10:52 am

Blast beats are the pinnacle of human achievement.

Fills are pretty sweet though too.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed September 26th, 2012, 11:03 am

Pat wrote:Blast beats are the pinnacle of human achievement.

Fills are pretty sweet though too.

Haha I think it's all in the context of the riffs that are played over that shit. There are plenty of bands who use a shit load of blasting and it works because the riffs are awesome and even more that do it and it sounds like dog shit because the riffs are lame.

I love blasting but what I love more is the drum parts being appropriate for the riffs that are played over them.

I think I just wrote this same post in another thread haha.

stewvee · Post by **stewvee** » Wed September 26th, 2012, 11:32 am

Knucklehead wrote:And I imagine you think Neil Peart is a drum god...

Ha ha ha YOU DIK. No, I don't. I love Rush, but I aint big on rattail's style. And I aint into blastbeats neeethur.

stewvee · Post by **stewvee** » Wed September 26th, 2012, 11:34 am

Ryan wrote:I love blasting but what I love more is the drum parts being appropriate for the riffs that are played over them.

This is where Dave Lombardo is the man. Dude hardly ever uses dbl kick and that's what most people focus on when they check him. Guess it's the "Angel of Death" bit that did it.

Moloc · Post by **Moloc** » Wed September 26th, 2012, 12:23 pm

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Clever video editing with the feet facing away from each other like that.

Knucklehead · Post by **Knucklehead** » Wed September 26th, 2012, 12:33 pm

stewvee wrote:
Ryan wrote:I love blasting but what I love more is the drum parts being appropriate for the riffs that are played over them.
This is where Dave Lombardo is the man. Dude hardly ever uses dbl kick and that's what most people focus on when they check him. Guess it's the "Angel of Death" bit that did it.

Off the top of my head in 30 seconds:
Raining Blood
South of Heaven
Silent Scream
Mandatory Suicide
Ghosts of War

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