Necrophagist/Arsis

[Matt]

As much as people seem to hate it, I think the Masquerade would be a better venue for this show. I cant really understand the logic in booking in Augusta aside from what Holly had stated which probably wont happen anyways because all those people in SC and NC are saying "Damn it, its a three hour drive, I cant afford that, and its in some shitty laundry mat that doesnt serve beer forget this" I bet they could get a better turn out at the masq and are doing themselves a disservice. I wanted to see this tour really really bad seeing as Arsis and Necrophagist are two of my all time favorites but for me It doesnt seem like its going to work out.

no hard feelings kyle,

i gaurentee this show could of been booked in atlanta if one of you bitches would stepped up off your asses and tried to book it instead of ALWAYS expecting someone else to. ive booked shows and i know how it is, im positive, that someone could of found a shithole to book this show at, whether it be a restaurant or some shitty bar, it doesnt matter. SUPPORT THE UNDERGROUND FUCKERS!!!!! DIY AND PBR FOR LIFE!!!

plus the masquerade got booked for a pop punk show that will draw 20 times what necrophagist will draw much further in advance.

[TheKshatriya]

Are photo cameras allowed? Plus, where the fuck can I buy the ticket? Ticketmaster page doesn't have it.

How many times do people have to say, shows like that dont sell out. Its like buying a ticket for a show at Swayzes or Lennys in advance.

[Strangler]

Are photo cameras allowed? Plus, where the fuck can I buy the ticket? Ticketmaster page doesn't have it.

How many times do people have to say, shows like that dont sell out. Its like buying a ticket for a show at Swayzes or Lennys in advance.

Hey dick, I just wanted to know where I can get a ticket. I don't care if the show doesn't sell out.

If I can make it to this show, then you people can too.

[TheKshatriya]

I wasnt being a dick but its completely obvious that places like that dont sell tickets, especially not in advance.

[Asrynth]

i gaurentee this show could of been booked in atlanta if one of you bitches would stepped up off your asses and tried to book it instead of ALWAYS expecting someone else to. ive booked shows and i know how it is, im positive, that someone could of found a shithole to book this show at, whether it be a restaurant or some shitty bar, it doesnt matter. SUPPORT THE UNDERGROUND FUCKERS!!!!! DIY AND PBR FOR LIFE!!!

plus the masquerade got booked for a pop punk show that will draw 20 times what necrophagist will draw much further in advance.

First of all, I doubt anyone at relapse or willowtip is going to trust some 17 year old guy who shoots them an e-mail saying he wants this tour to come to their town, second of all, I dont know the first damn thing about booking, how the hell am I going to give them the 1,000+ guarentee that they would want? Third of all, I think tours like this may be a little more legit and wouldnt deal with just any random independent promoter who says he can do the job. But then again I am probably wrong because how the hell did they get booked in a washing clauset if that was the case?

Lastly, some other dude said and I quote, "A band comes all the way across the seas to play this?" And I have to agree, I wouldnt be the happiest camper if I had to play a show in a closet in the middle of nowhere that I probably wouldnt make even on. If I went through all the trouble to do a tour, save the cash, and make the arrangements to spend 3 months miles and miles away from home, I would at least expect to be playing in somewhat attractive venues.

Plus, I really dont care all that much that its booked in augusta, If I could I would drive it, but Im more angry that I have crucial finals that day and the next and seeing as I am 17 I still have to abide by the midnight curfew which wouldnt be such an issue if I wasnt doing a three hour drive back.

P.S. Matt all the shows you book are shows with not very high guarentees. This isnt a grind show where people are expecting barely $100 to try and do a east coast tour or something. I dont know about you, but I would think for this things would be a little more complicated than just throwing your name out there.

[holly]

Are photo cameras allowed? Plus, where the fuck can I buy the ticket? Ticketmaster page doesn't have it.

How many times do people have to say, shows like that dont sell out. Its like buying a ticket for a show at Swayzes or Lennys in advance.

Hey dick, I just wanted to know where I can get a ticket. I don't care if the show doesn't sell out.

If I can make it to this show, then you people can too.

I think what he said made it pretty obvious that tickets for the event DO NOT EXIST.
I don't get why the fuck DIY events are so goddamn hard for people to wrap their minds around.

[Matt]

Wrong Kyle,

The club that booked the show was booked 100% DIY. And the gaurentee is a factor you just have to take the risk like any show. Ive booked shows before nobody ever asks how old you are or even cares for that matter as long as you find a club and meet and agreement. I doubt the kids in augusta that booked that show put down a $1000 gaurentee, relapse will give necro a lot of tour support.

Also I know this show is bigger than any show ive ever booked, none of that really matters though, a show is a show. A show this big you would expect 20 times as many people that would come to some crappy shit show i would book, so theres your extra cash right there. I wasnt saying you alone should book it, but Im saying with all the complaints on this board about it being in Augusta I'm someone could of set this shit up. Its not that big of a show. Its not like you were booking the suffocation, aborted, cryptopsy, decapitated, etc tour or the sounds of the underground.

[AmoebicDysentery]

I asked Alex months ago why this tour was booked at this club instead of in Atlanta, and I totally forgot what he told me...which makes this post pretty useless. He didn't seem to give much of a fuck about it and he's the one playing...

[holly]

First of all, I doubt anyone at relapse or willowtip is going to trust some 17 year old guy who shoots them an e-mail saying he wants this tour to come to their town, second of all, I dont know the first damn thing about booking, how the hell am I going to give them the 1,000+ guarentee that they would want? Third of all, I think tours like this may be a little more legit and wouldnt deal with just any random independent promoter who says he can do the job. But then again I am probably wrong because how the hell did they get booked in a washing clauset if that was the case?

Here here.
Booking is much harder than it seems, and on something like this where a good amount of money is involved, if you can't draw, guess who pays the bands? YOU DO.
It's a very risky thing for ANYONE to do, let alone a highschooler, who at best pulls in a part-time income.

Lastly, some other dude said and I quote, "A band comes all the way across the seas to play this?" And I have to agree, I wouldnt be the happiest camper if I had to play a show in a closet in the middle of nowhere that I probably wouldnt make even on. If I went through all the trouble to do a tour, save the cash, and make the arrangements to spend 3 months miles and miles away from home, I would at least expect to be playing in somewhat attractive venues.

However, people shouldn't be pissed off to play DIY venues.
DIY shows are some of the best, not to mention the fact that none of these bands are all that big.
I doubt it would have been worth the money to the Masquerade for this show to happen here anyway.

If you gave two shits about actually playing music, these things wouldn't matter.
FURTHERMORE, if they were coming from overseas to play these low-guarantee shows, I HIGHLY doubt that they came over here LEGITIMATELY with WORK VISAS to tour, so they save money to begin with anyway.

[Matt]

Never said kyle alone should book it, I'm saying with all the time spent bitching about the show being in Augusta instead of atlanta im sure someone could of booked that shit here. Its not the tour of the century or anything. It would have its risks but it would definitely fucking draw. Besides what show doesnt have its risks?

[Asrynth]

I never said booking was easy. I am around enough music in general to know that it is no walk in the park. Secondly I realize that if you cant draw, you have to pay. Which is precisely why I have never undertaken such a thing because metal shows in atlanta is about the most undependable thing there is. Thirdly if you think that this tour is playing at shitty venues all the way across the country, you are wrong. They hit some pretty decent places when they go to New York, Chicago and other big cities.

Lastly its easy to say "Oh if your truely in it for the music it wont matter" Not entirely true. I have spoken with Mike from Arsis on a number of occasions over the internet and he has expressed that he often gets very tired of touring due to the pitiful conditions and lack of fans, I think this tour may be better through because from what I have heard they have been getting anywhere from 200-500 a night. If you think that metal bands that tour dont get tired of the road and the effort they put into it you are quite decieved. Thats not to say that everyband hates metal and the music they are playing, only to state the point that no band is extatic all the way through their two and a half month tour.

[Matt]

true but you can say that about any tour. booking is definitely not rocket science.

[holly]

Never said kyle alone should book it, I'm saying with all the time spent bitching about the show being in Augusta instead of atlanta im sure someone could of booked that shit here. Its not the tour of the century or anything. It would have its risks but it would definitely fucking draw. Besides what show doesnt have its risks?

This is true.
I was only agreeing with some of what he said, not totally disagreeing with what you said.

[holly]

Thirdly if you think that this tour is playing at shitty venues all the way across the country, you are wrong. They hit some pretty decent places when they go to New York, Chicago and other big cities.

Bigger cities, better scenes.
If you compare it to other cities, Atlanta is a joke when it comes to the music scene.
It's not wonder that some small venue in Augusta could snatch a show like this from the Atlanta market.

Lastly its easy to say "Oh if your truely in it for the music it wont matter" Not entirely true. I have spoken with Mike from Arsis on a number of occasions over the internet and he has expressed that he often gets very tired of touring due to the pitiful conditions and lack of fans, I think this tour may be better through because from what I have heard they have been getting anywhere from 200-500 a night. If you think that metal bands that tour dont get tired of the road and the effort they put into it you are quite decieved. Thats not to say that everyband hates metal and the music they are playing, only to state the point that no band is extatic all the way through their two and a half month tour.

Oh, I totally realize this.
That doesn't mean that venues like this should be discounted, though; especially considering that this venue has been snatching hardcore shows up from the Atlanta market for the past two years.
It's only natural that their tastes and repertoire are going to expand and that they're going to start booking and promoting different kinds of shows.

[Matt]

if more people booked shows in atlanta we could steal every show that goes to hickgusta, easily, metal wise, do they even have any hardcore bands from there, cant think of any except that one band in full effect, are they even still around???? they used to have some bands, paint the sky red and kill the author. that was years back though. cant think of any death metal from there though.