Some hacked the government and found out about aliens

[WREKage-Paul]

Actually solar power can help you now. One of my family members in Florida just built a new house they decided to fit the roof with solar panels to help out with the energy bill. I was told this past winter and some of the spring that the solar panels did so well at helping out that some months the power company writes them a check not bad I must say. Not that its going to make that big of a deal but thats some food for thought or maybe not who really gives a fuck..... I agree with paul you have to be a little bit cynical

Solar can be workable for small-scale applications like a house, but there are some obvious limitations. What do you do at night? What if it's cloudy all day and the solar panels' effiiciency is reduced?
If you take your house entirely off the power-grid, you have to have some major batteries to take up the slack at night, and batteries are environmentally unfriendly to make.

Speaking of environmentally unfriendly, solar cells themselves are pretty unfriendly, too. Selenium and germanium, rare metals that go into solar cells, typically have to be strip-mined. This is one reason why solar cells are expensive. Big Environment has a habit of overlooking this....can't inagine why.....

[NeuroNomicon]

Paul's got a lot of valid points. When it really boils down any large group of people is going to put their collective agenda over the little-dude. Solar is rather pointless, and the main problem with passive-solar is the batteries are rather inefficient as well.

China is like a big case of Elephantitis on the Earth's ass. They're soaking up more oil (in terms of expansion) than we are. Especially considering the "American Dream" is selling bigtime over there. China wouldn't be too terrible if they weren't such a gross defiler of human dignity.

The Renn-fest was a loooong time ago. It's actually how we found out about WREK and WREKage. One of us, probably me or Saam, was wearing a Children of Bodom shirt, and you brought up hosting on WREKage. We thence, checked it out.

The problem of the energy situation is that we've collectively abandoned technological exploitation on a mass-scale. We should apply (some of) our war-budgeting towards a robust R&D programme. The problem with war is that it's way easier to blow shit up, than to come up with something new. Blowing shit up gets results; creativity is a big gamble. There's no guarantee that one of you 'tech students is going to come up with a room-temp superconductor or cold-fusion, but a bomb + target always = boom.

'Til next time,
Mike

[WREKage-Paul]

I was with ya until this:

The problem of the energy situation is that we've collectively abandoned technological exploitation on a mass-scale. We should apply (some of) our war-budgeting towards a robust R&D programme. The problem with war is that it's way easier to blow shit up, than to come up with something new. Blowing shit up gets results; creativity is a big gamble. There's no guarantee that one of you 'tech students is going to come up with a room-temp superconductor or cold-fusion, but a bomb + target always = boom.

You do know that many -- naybe even most -- of our biggest technological advances have come from either military R&D or (more recently) from space research, right?

If not, you can turn off your computer and your cable modem right now, since the Internet itself -- originally developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) -- wouldn't be here without it. Oh, and you can turn in your microwave, cellphone and cable TV/satellite, too. For starters.

War is hell. But like it or not, it's also where a lot of research money lives.

[Greg]

If not, you can turn off your computer and your cable modem right now, since the Internet itself -- originally developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) -- wouldn't be here without it.

So you're saying Al Gore was a robot devloped by DARPA to create the internet?

[WREKage-Paul]

heh, I forgot to add an Al Gore joke, actually. He voted for the bill that created DARPA and the ARPANet, therefore, he 'invented the Internet.'

Al Gore a robot? Who could tell the difference?

[ProstheticHead12]

now i believe is an appropriate time to congratulate Al Gore on his swift and efficient killing of the menace we all know as manbearpig. i for one, thank him for his humble service to humanity.

[WREKage-Paul]

Yep. I certainly feel safer at night.

[Australasia]

Wow, I don't post here often (actually not much at all) but this thread makes my head fucking hurt.

To add in my two cents though, our country is heading towards a facism. If something isn't done now (and voting doesn't work, it already proved itself to be a failure) then we are in a shitload of trouble.

www.revcom.us

Check out that website. That is what this country needs.

[Death2all]

I know this is off subject but I have just finished a book by John Hagee in titled Counting down to Jerusalem. It sheds light on what is going on in the Middle East and how it has a role in the beginning of the end. I understand that we the U.S have got to handle this thing very delicately. I hate how the media has portrayed President Bush and the war in Iraq. I honestly think its time for someone to do what is right and stop listening to the bleeding hearts this is war people its going to get ugly. The two soldiers that were kid napped and mutilated should be the wake up call to everyone as to the kind of people we are fighting.

I am a nondenominational Christian and I believe Jesus Christ was the light of god sent for the salvation of the Gentiles. I also believe that the Jewish people are the apple of god?s eye and that Jerusalem is there land. The road map to peace will never work the people of Israel should not take one step out of the Jerusalem or the Gaza strip or the west bank, its there land.
I am not here to convert anyone just merely stating my opinion.

[slut rag]

[quote="ProstheticHead12"]now i believe is an appropriate time to congratulate Al Gore on his swift and efficient killing of the menace we all know as manbearpig. i for one, thank him for his humble service to humanity.[/quote]


........HE WAS SUPER SERIAL..........YAH

[Australasia]

I think we should kill all the facist Christians and burn them at the fucking stake. After that, we can have peace.

If we want to stop terrorism, then we need to stop breeding it. The school of the America's is a clear example of bad foreign policy.

[ProstheticHead12]

I think we should kill all the facist Christians and burn them at the fucking stake. After that, we can have peace.

Yay! Stupidity!!

[NeuroNomicon]

...for the majourity of its life as an entity, Christianity has done a lot more harm than it has ever done good. Jesus himself said, "Judge a tree by its fruit; a bad tree doesn't make good fruit, and a good tree doesn't make bad fruit". I think that analogy is very applicable to Christianity itself. Being a creation of Medieval Rome, it was damned from the beginning. All the truly insightful books were left out at the Council of Nicea, and what we've got left is the equivalent of someone writing about the impeachment of Bill Clinton three hundred years from now, and without the aid of historical reference tools such as encyclopedias, history books, etc. The entire affair is a charade.

To do good, without the promise of a "heavenly reward" is the true measure of a man's spirit.

[necroodin]

loooool

"To add in my two cents though, our country is heading towards a facism."

I would suggest, if one is going to publicly pontificate in dramatic fashion, one should at least SPEAK YOU THE ENGLISH. In todays world the word "fascism", is almost entirely meaningless therefore entirely ambiguous and undefinable. I'm sure you'll make a valiant attempt at trying.

[NeuroNomicon]

...to agree with the previous post...it would be better described as a Democratic Republic in rapid decay. A failed system overloaded with the baneful curse of tyrannical overtones.

It would be, of the futurists predictions, neither fascist nor totalitarian, yet doomed nonetheless; it is with the wrathful consumption through which our govenment has been sold out in the utmost of literal interpretations. In the somewhat flippant manner of cyberpunk futurism, we've been taken over by MegaCorp, and our government has been a plutocracy for sometime. The constituency of the "masters" is not the individual, but those with the utmost in purchasing power. In this fashion, "the best democracy money can buy" is no longer inkeeping with humour; nay, it is only the most wretched prophecy fulfilled by some of the greatest, uninhibited minds. The question remains, were they merely foreseeing the shockwaves and ripples that lead to the line of the future, or were their darkest fantasies manifested to flesh?