A sad day for music lovers

[ScreamBloodyGore]

The servers of OiNK.cd - one of the most popular private BitTorrent trackers - are raided and the admin, a 24-year-old man from Middlesbrough, is arrested.

OiNK.cd Servers Raided, Admin ArrestedThe British and the Dutch police both contributed to the investigation that was initiated by the IFPI and the BPI, two well known anti-piracy organizations. The operation was supported by Interpol who coordinated the international cooperation.

According to early reports OiNk’s servers were confiscated in Amsterdam last week. This seems to be unlikely because the site was still fully functional 24 hours ago. The administrator of OiNK was arrested this morning by the Cleveland Police. The BBC reports that his employer and the home of his father were raided as well.

Jeremy Banks, Head of the IFPI’s Internet Anti-Piracy Unit, said in a reponse to the news: “OiNK was central to the illegal distribution of pre-release music online. This was not a case of friends sharing music for pleasure. This was a worldwide network that got hold of music they did not own the rights to and posted it online.â€Â￾

OiNK hosted hundreds and thousands of torrents with over a million peers which makes it more popular than most public trackers. The site was known to be one of the first places where leaked music albums appeared, so anti-piracy outfits such as MediaDefender were keeping a close eye on it.

In July the tracker already changed its name from OiNK.me.uk to OiNK.cd due to “legalâ€Â￾ issues with their domain registrar. Unfortunately it now seems that the popular private BitTorrent tracker is in bigger trouble.

http://torrentfreak.com/oinkcd-servers- ... -arrested/

[Brian]

On a related note, Kerrazy-Torrents is also down. This isn't the first time the site has gone down, but it's kind of weird that it goes down at the same time as OiNK.

[ScreamBloodyGore]

Oink was truly the greatest torrent site in existance. Without it, my Metal library would be a third the size, and pathetic in diversity.

Figures that a Xasthur album would be my final download.

[ProstheticHead12]

a sad day for music lovers my ass, go buy something for once

[Brian]

a sad day for music lovers my ass, go buy something for once

Give me a fucking break. You tell me where I can buy the ultra-rare limited to 350 copies of albums that I want. I buy 8-10 CDs a month.

And hey, for that matter, why don't you tell me a better method for discovering thee very underground bands?

[ProstheticHead12]

a sad day for music lovers my ass, go buy something for once

Give me a fucking break. You tell me where I can buy the ultra-rare limited to 350 copies of albums that I want. I buy 8-10 CDs a month.

And hey, for that matter, why don't you tell me a better method for discovering thee very underground bands?

how about give me a fucking break. if you buy that many cds i clearly wasn't talking to you.

[Asrynth]

I know alot of people buy and download, but Death Metal does loose alot of sales due to illegal downloading no matter what you think of the process. Alex Webster says he estimates that cannibal looses about 30,000 sales to due illegal downloading each time they do a record. Thats almost $400,000 in lost dollars to the band, record label and whoever else you want to name, but illegal downloading isnt doing much for death metal except making rare records a little more accessible, But finding those albums isnt something that couldnt be done with a search in google.

Other styles of music are more popular and can roll with the punches when it comes to setbacks in sales due to illegal downloading, death metal isnt so popular so lost sales eventually begin to add up. Im not condemning anyone, I download too, but definately if you have any intention of helping these bands out, BUY CDS.

[Brian]

a sad day for music lovers my ass, go buy something for once

Give me a fucking break. You tell me where I can buy the ultra-rare limited to 350 copies of albums that I want. I buy 8-10 CDs a month.

And hey, for that matter, why don't you tell me a better method for discovering thee very underground bands?

how about give me a fucking break. if you buy that many cds i clearly wasn't talking to you.

I apologize, my response was uncalled for and I didn't put much thought into it (I'm not trying to make a sarcastic response either, I genuinely mean that)

[Brian]

I know alot of people buy and download, but Death Metal does loose alot of sales due to illegal downloading no matter what you think of the process. Alex Webster says he estimates that cannibal looses about 30,000 sales to due illegal downloading each time they do a record. Thats almost $400,000 in lost dollars to the band, record label and whoever else you want to name, but illegal downloading isnt doing much for death metal except making rare records a little more accessible, But finding those albums isnt something that couldnt be done with a search in google.

Other styles of music are more popular and can roll with the punches when it comes to setbacks in sales due to illegal downloading, death metal isnt so popular so lost sales eventually begin to add up. Im not condemning anyone, I download too, but definately if you have any intention of helping these bands out, BUY CDS.

There are two sides to that argument though -- how many of the people who download the Cannibal Corpse album would have even found out about CC without file sharing? Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of "fans" who pirate the band's material and don't buy merch so basically they're leeching off of their hardwork, but there are still plenty of people out there who only listen to the band because they found them using BitTorrent, Soulseek, or whatever other program you want to use.

One of the main reasons I download is because I listen to so much music. There is no way I could possibly afford to buy all of the death metal, black metal, trip-hop, reggae, prog rock, classical, etc albums even if I wanted to. I try to help out bands whenever I can, but I'll admit, I do contribute to the problem.

[slut rag]

i have always heard of bit-torrents but never understood what they were and how to fucking use them ..., but my question would be: how would something like this affect programs like soulseek or kazaa??

[Matt]

yea i dont know how to use torrents

[ScreamBloodyGore]

i have always heard of bit-torrents but never understood what they were and how to fucking use them ..., but my question would be: how would something like this affect programs like soulseek or kazaa??

They're safe for now.

And for those in the dark, when you see the term "torrent" used online, it's generally referring to a file (usually an album) that can be downloaded.

[Matt]

Alex Webster says he estimates that cannibal looses about 30,000 sales to due illegal downloading each time they do a record. Thats almost $400,000 in lost dollars to the band, record label and whoever else you want to name, but illegal downloading isnt doing much for death metal except making rare records a little more accessible, .

whatever, i dont believe that for a second.... 30,000 records, id be suprised if cannibal corpse even sells that many at all, and definitely not on top , sure they can pack venues, but more than half the fucks there dont know the songs and are just going to look cool or say they saw cannibal corpse live

[ScreamBloodyGore]

Alex Webster says he estimates that cannibal looses about 30,000 sales to due illegal downloading each time they do a record. Thats almost $400,000 in lost dollars to the band, record label and whoever else you want to name, but illegal downloading isnt doing much for death metal except making rare records a little more accessible, .

whatever, i dont believe that for a second.... 30,000 records, id be suprised if cannibal corpse even sells that many at all, and definitely not on top , sure they can pack venues, but more than half the fucks there dont know the songs and are just going to look cool or say they saw cannibal corpse live

And as anyone with a general knowledge of music knows, a band makes most of their income from touring.

I'm all for buying records when I have the money. Physically owning a CD is much more satisfying, but when it comes to a genre like metal, and the only way to purchase an underground album is through the band's website, it's much easier to save ten dollars and download it.

[ScreamBloodyGore]

Alex Webster says he estimates that cannibal looses about 30,000 sales to due illegal downloading each time they do a record. Thats almost $400,000 in lost dollars to the band, record label and whoever else you want to name, but illegal downloading isnt doing much for death metal except making rare records a little more accessible, .

whatever, i dont believe that for a second.... 30,000 records, id be suprised if cannibal corpse even sells that many at all, and definitely not on top , sure they can pack venues, but more than half the fucks there dont know the songs and are just going to look cool or say they saw cannibal corpse live

And as anyone with a general knowledge of music knows, a band generates most of their income through touring.

I'm all for buying records when I have the money. Physically owning a CD is much more satisfying. But when it comes to a genre like metal, and the only way to purchase an underground album is through the band's website, it's much easier to save ten dollars and download it.