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how long is too long?

Post by BlazeTSU » Thu December 27th, 2007, 12:35 am

so, i was having a conversation today about set lengths for local and relatively unknown metal bands. i feel that more often than not, local metal bands overstay their welcome onstage. i'm always interested to hear other people's opinions about stuff like this.

what do you all think is a good length for a local metal band's set?



personally i think half an hour is ideal.......i'll go into the details of my opinion later.

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Post by holly » Thu December 27th, 2007, 5:17 am

Unfortunately, most local bands in ANY area are not on par with the big boys. Less is better. I pay to see the touring bands and friends' bands, not Joe Shmoe's new band (unless they are totally awesome).

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Post by Blarg! » Thu December 27th, 2007, 9:19 am

holly wrote:Unfortunately, most local bands in ANY area are not on par with the big boys. Less is better. I pay to see the touring bands and friends' bands, not Joe Shmoe's new band (unless they are totally awesome).

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Anyways,This all depends on whether the band sucks or not.

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Post by ProstheticHead12 » Thu December 27th, 2007, 9:37 am

I'd say 30 minutes is a good set for a local band, and if they're really good like lazer/wulf, novum organum, music hates you, etc i'd like to see 45 mins at least.

Are you talking about an all local show or opening for a touring band?
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Post by AmoebicDysentery » Thu December 27th, 2007, 10:33 am

Amoebic Dysentery always tried to keep our set pretty short (well, from 2005 on, anyways). Especially when everything sounds like a giant fart, 20 minutes is more than enough.

Always better to leave the audience wanting more.

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Post by Metalfreak » Thu December 27th, 2007, 12:03 pm

AmoebicDysentery wrote:Amoebic Dysentery always tried to keep our set pretty short (well, from 2005 on, anyways). Especially when everything sounds like a giant fart, 20 minutes is more than enough.

Always better to leave the audience wanting more.
:lol:

anyways, yeah if the band is awesome, give them at least 45 minutes. Sometimes, I'll try to get to a show early so I can catch the local band...especially Sybaritic. They're freakin' awesome!
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Post by Blarg! » Thu December 27th, 2007, 12:44 pm

Metalfreak wrote:
AmoebicDysentery wrote:Amoebic Dysentery always tried to keep our set pretty short (well, from 2005 on, anyways). Especially when everything sounds like a giant fart, 20 minutes is more than enough.

Always better to leave the audience wanting more.
:lol:

anyways, yeah if the band is awesome, give them at least 45 minutes. Sometimes, I'll try to get to a show early so I can catch the local band...especially Sybaritic. They're freakin' awesome!
I remember From Exile definitely did this.
Well...All the bands during that show besides Arsis and Enslaved were pretty rough to sit through..

Also,I remember Angel corpse (Out of all bands) had a really long set,which made you tired of them by the time it was over..

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Post by Matt » Thu December 27th, 2007, 1:45 pm

this band deadsea that opened for withered a week or so ago played just way the hell too long, like aleast 55 minutes, that ruined the set for me completely
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Post by Brian » Thu December 27th, 2007, 7:32 pm

Locals get too much time at almost every show I've seen. Don't get me wrong, I like From Exile, but they played for as long as Enslaved at the show in November. That's just not right.

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Post by holly » Thu December 27th, 2007, 11:50 pm

Brian wrote:Locals get too much time at almost every show I've seen. Don't get me wrong, I like From Exile, but they played for as long as Enslaved at the show in November. That's just not right.
If they didn't play more than like 20 minutes, their whole set would be two songs.
& they really didn't have the same amount of time, dude.
Enslaved's songs aren't so short that they played that big of a set list in the same amount of time.

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Post by Blarg! » Fri December 28th, 2007, 5:26 am

holly wrote:
Brian wrote:Locals get too much time at almost every show I've seen. Don't get me wrong, I like From Exile, but they played for as long as Enslaved at the show in November. That's just not right.
If they didn't play more than like 20 minutes, their whole set would be two songs.
& they really didn't have the same amount of time, dude.
Enslaved's songs aren't so short that they played that big of a set list in the same amount of time.
Oh,maybe In Exile just seemed really long.

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Post by BlazeTSU » Fri December 28th, 2007, 7:46 am

i think 30 minutes is tops any local should play. i've seen a lot of local bands that blow me away with their first few songs only to walk out on them after they continue to play for an hour or more.

local bands need to realize that nobody knows their damn music. so even if its the best shit on the planet, it all starts sounding the same and gets boring as hell after 30-40 minutes. playing longer than that just seems like a rookie mistake or an ego stroke to me.

i like the 30 minutes or 5-6 song rule..........after that no one seems to give a damn. if people want to see more tell them about your next show and keep your setlists varied.


and when i say locals, i'm not talking about bands like mastodon, withered, daath.......etc....etc.....they are all local to atlanta but obviously have national appeal and albums out that people are familiar with. which should give them an extra 10 to 15 minutes.

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Post by Brian » Fri December 28th, 2007, 11:46 am

holly wrote:
Brian wrote:Locals get too much time at almost every show I've seen. Don't get me wrong, I like From Exile, but they played for as long as Enslaved at the show in November. That's just not right.
If they didn't play more than like 20 minutes, their whole set would be two songs.
& they really didn't have the same amount of time, dude.
Enslaved's songs aren't so short that they played that big of a set list in the same amount of time.
If I remember correctly From Exile played for 45-50 and Enslaved played for 55 including encore. Arsis only played for 35. How does that make sense? I'm not trying to shit on From Exile or anything because like I said, I enjoy their music, but locals should never have more or equal time as national bands.

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Post by Metalfreak » Fri December 28th, 2007, 1:04 pm

Brian wrote: but locals should never have more or equal time as national bands.
I do agree with this statement.

I don't think every local band should be only limited to only 30 minutes though. If they're good, let them play a bit longer.

I also agree with Blaze about the local bands keeping their set varied. I don't like it when I hear the same songs over and over again! Shit, that goes for any band! :)
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Post by God of Brutality » Fri December 28th, 2007, 3:45 pm

local bands should play their 1 good song then get off the stage!!!!!!

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