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Post by samsara » Fri August 22nd, 2008, 5:35 pm

BlazeTSU wrote:and another thing.........

everyone hates on metallica and says that they are the biggest sell-outs in metal history BUT is that really true? is that just based on the fact that they were successful? a lot of the older bands put out at least one "what they hell?" album. does anyone remember Kreator's run through the 90's? Megadeth's "Cryptic Writings"(megadeths "black album attempt) "Risk"(megadeths load attempt)? the last three Slayer albums? Sepultura and Soulfly anyone?

i think its most impressive that Metallica became one of the biggest bands on the planet doing what they wanted to but so many bands tried to follow trends and fell flat on their faces.
I think people are bitter because Metallica "sold out" and had success doing it. Megadeth, Slayer, and whoever else fell flat on their faces, as you said, so there's no animosity even though they "betrayed" their original sound, it was a failure. Metallica gets hated because they made tons of money "betraying" their origins.

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Post by necroodin » Sat August 23rd, 2008, 11:21 am

I doubt Megadeth and Slayer are hurting for funds. They just can't be put on lunchboxes or made into cartoons.

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Post by samsara » Sat August 23rd, 2008, 12:03 pm

My point is that Metallica became the one of the biggest bands in the world when they "sold out". When Megadeth tried to go more commercial, it didn't catch on and they lost a lot of credibility, proving that they were better off sticking to their guns.

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Post by Vhyle » Sat August 23rd, 2008, 4:40 pm

necroodin wrote:I doubt Megadeth and Slayer are hurting for funds. They just can't be put on lunchboxes or made into cartoons.
You are incorrect, sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeGnQTQO ... re=related

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Post by necroodin » Sat August 23rd, 2008, 5:14 pm

I stand McScrooge'd

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Post by Ecrypt » Sat August 23rd, 2008, 10:31 pm

Heres the new single "The Day That NeverComes"
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... mID=103278
Put a big ol' smile on my face!
FINALLY, a new song from Metallica that resembles METAL!
Are those some sweep picks and double bass I hear at the end?!?!?
Perhaps a reason to forgive them?
I think if the rest sounds like this I might give them another chance to be my favorite band again!
And for all the persistent haters, theres a band I discovered before St. Anger came out that was being labeled on the P2P networks as "new metallica" and I prayed that the songs were real. However I found out it was actually a band from Finland called Am I Blood. This is probably what Metallica should have sounded like after the black album, if not before.
check them out; http://www.myspace.com/amiblood

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Post by Metalfreak » Mon August 25th, 2008, 3:40 pm

dude I like it! the fact that it doesn't sound like St Anger makes it all the better! The first few minutes were kinda slow but it wasn't bad at all...at least I don't think.
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Post by Knucklehead » Wed August 27th, 2008, 7:45 am

My Apocalypse.

I'm assuming that you guys have already heard it. I'll give it a second listen, but, having heard the song about 15 minutes ago, I remember nothing about it, other than an impression that it was faster and sounded a bit like the AJFA era.

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Post by BlazeTSU » Wed August 27th, 2008, 8:59 am

Knucklehead wrote:My Apocalypse.

I'm assuming that you guys have already heard it. I'll give it a second listen, but, having heard the song about 15 minutes ago, I remember nothing about it, other than an impression that it was faster and sounded a bit like the AJFA era.

i think i liked "the day that never comes" more but this song isn't bad by any means......better than anything Slayer has done for a decade. and funny thing is that it reminds a lot of mid-nineties Slayer.


I wonder if they are going back to the old RTL, MOB, AJFA formula of arranging the album. Meaning.....

Song 1 - barnburner
Song 2 - Epic title track
Song 3 - slower, heavier
Song 4 - more ballad-esque
Songs 5 - 7 - ass kickers
Song 8 - usually being an instrumental

I know that they are putting something like 14 songs on this album so i doubt that they'll follow this formula exactly but I'm wondering if the songs will fall in line with albums past.

I ask b/c "my apocalyse" sounds like an opener or closer for them. "Cyanide" seems like a 5-7 type song(escape, harvester of sorrow....etc..) and "The Day That Never Comes" has the ballad-esque feel to it.

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Post by Knucklehead » Wed August 27th, 2008, 11:00 am

BlazeTSU wrote:I think i liked "the day that never comes" more but this song isn't bad by any means......better than anything Slayer has done for a decade. and funny thing is that it reminds a lot of mid-nineties Slayer.
Ya. Like I said, I've only listened to it once, but I remember thinking, "what's up with the Slayer riff?"

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Post by Metalfreak » Wed August 27th, 2008, 3:54 pm

Knucklehead wrote:My Apocalypse.

I'm assuming that you guys have already heard it. I'll give it a second listen, but, having heard the song about 15 minutes ago, I remember nothing about it, other than an impression that it was faster and sounded a bit like the AJFA era.
I like this one too! I think I am sold on this album...
They had you do a drug test and the forgot to test for drugs???

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Post by TheKshatriya » Thu August 28th, 2008, 12:51 am

I dont think this album will be good in any way shape or form. But I love them.

Give James a bottle of jack and tell him he has no money and do the same for Lars (and Dave Mustain) and they'll write a hard album again. No main stream band can be metal and be a good band. They dont need to "try and express their creativity" and just play classic thrash. But im not holding my breath.

This album is already a billion times better than St. Anger.




Actually I think they should break up.

Edit: I just listened to S&M and the intro rules. The Ecstasy of Gold is awesome, i wish they would have done the whole thing on the album.

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Post by Metalfreak » Fri August 29th, 2008, 12:05 pm

TheKshatriya wrote:I dont think this album will be good in any way shape or form. But I love them.

Give James a bottle of jack and tell him he has no money and do the same for Lars (and Dave Mustain) and they'll write a hard album again. No main stream band can be metal and be a good band. They dont need to "try and express their creativity" and just play classic thrash. But im not holding my breath.

This album is already a billion times better than St. Anger.




Actually I think they should break up.

Edit: I just listened to S&M and the intro rules. The Ecstasy of Gold is awesome, i wish they would have done the whole thing on the album.
well, 'mainstream' metal bands can be good...the thing is most metal bands are not played in the mainstream at least in this country. Think of all the other countries where metal is accepted in the mainstream and is played on the radio.

In the US, you got your crappy MTV2 bands like Killswitch and Chimera and those could be considered mainstream here so what you say holds true but not necessarily for other countries.

other than that, I totally agree with what you say! (except them breaking up hehe)
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Post by TheKshatriya » Mon September 1st, 2008, 9:16 pm

Metal isnt really mainstream in any country, its definitely more well known and popular but its not mainstream.

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Post by ScreamBloodyGore » Tue September 2nd, 2008, 9:17 pm

So apparently this all went and leaked or whatever.

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