Until The Light Takes Us (black metal movie) screening in At

Post by **Metalfreak** » Fri August 14th, 2009, 12:55 pm

yeah I really wish I could have gone but couldn't.

I hope it gets released on DVD or something, even if we gotta pay to download it.

GameFreac · Post by **GameFreac** » Fri August 14th, 2009, 1:44 pm

Wow 130 people...that's great.

Yeah if there's a DVD, I'll buy it. It's the least I could do since I couldn't make it. I really like black metal documentaries and documentaries in general, so I'm sure this one will be good.

Generubin · Post by **Generubin** » Fri August 14th, 2009, 3:00 pm

I think depending on the situation I would go to this, if not I will wait for the DVD

Post by **Brian** » Fri August 14th, 2009, 3:10 pm

Why did Faust have the voice changer and have himself blacked out?

I enjoyed the movie a lot and like Tommy said, there was a good turnout. I'd probably watch it again if it comes out on DVD.

Kurt · Post by **Kurt** » Fri August 14th, 2009, 7:11 pm

Interesting enough film. I am a bit unnerved by the atheistic "nature" of black metal that the film presented. Of course, fault cannot be placed on the film makers for this oversight since the bulk of information was conveyed via-interviews. Rather, I find the individuals selected (by the film makers) to expound on the nature of this music to be questionable, if not only naive.

VOEGTLIN · Post by **VOEGTLIN** » Fri August 14th, 2009, 10:39 pm

Indeed, warrior. Ye sound troo.

Kurt · Post by **Kurt** » Fri August 14th, 2009, 10:47 pm

Clearly.

I should start a web-zine.

VOEGTLIN · Post by **VOEGTLIN** » Fri August 14th, 2009, 11:47 pm

Naw. That wouldn't be for real.

Kinko's calls.

Kurt · Post by **Kurt** » Sat August 15th, 2009, 12:13 am

Heh, touchÃƒÂ©. I've got nothing...

Post by **Brian** » Sat August 15th, 2009, 1:57 am

Kurt wrote:Interesting enough film. I am a bit unnerved by the atheistic "nature" of black metal that the film presented. Of course, fault cannot be placed on the film makers for this oversight since the bulk of information was conveyed via-interviews. Rather, I find the individuals selected (by the film makers) to expound on the nature of this music to be questionable, if not only naive.

Who would you have rather seen interviewed? Not trying to question your views, I just enjoy reading interviews with black metal musicians more than any other type so it would provide me with some things to read.

Maybe it's time for another black metal ideology discussion (as long as it's not ruined again).

Chaos · Post by **Chaos** » Sat August 15th, 2009, 9:18 am

I GO TO THIS AND SEE HUNDRED OF UNTRUE PEOPLE SO I FUCKING LEAVE FUCKER YOU FOR RUIN THIS 4 ME

Kurt · Post by **Kurt** » Sat August 15th, 2009, 10:26 am

Brian wrote:Who would you have rather seen interviewed? Not trying to question your views, I just enjoy reading interviews with black metal musicians more than any other type so it would provide me with some things to read.

Maybe it's time for another black metal ideology discussion (as long as it's not ruined again).

Heh, well that is the million dollar question, isn't it? Here I am bitching without presenting a "better-case scenario."

While I'm actually not the biggest Emperor fan, perhaps a discussion with Ihsahn concerning the spiritual nature of black metal could have presented an interesting balance to A. Varg's instance that none of the old bands were Satanic and B. Fenriz....being a metalhead, only.

My point being that plenty of early black metal bands were influenced by their, albeit maybe naive at the time, personal beliefs regarding spirituality, esotericism, occultism, et cetera.

Post by **Metalfreak** » Sat August 15th, 2009, 10:58 am

Chaos wrote:I GO TO THIS AND SEE HUNDRED OF UNTRUE PEOPLE SO I FUCKING LEAVE FUCKER YOU FOR RUIN THIS 4 ME

hahahaha wow. awesomeness

@Kurt - you make some good points. Obviously I haven't seen it though. anyways, you mention the film pretty much portrays these musicians as largely being athiest, from the interviews I've read over the years, many black metal musicians are athiest, not satanists. or maybe they were satanists back in the day and are now athiests (that's how it is with me actually; no, I didn't worship satan, just really went by the philosophies of it.) Alot of it is just imagery too.

Sorry Chaos, I know that isn't tr00 or kvlt enough for you!

Kurt · Post by **Kurt** » Sat August 15th, 2009, 2:28 pm

Sure, I was not expecting Fenriz/Varg/Abbath and so forth to say anything other than what they did.

Rather, the point of critiquing a documentary made by outsiders is to gauge how someone with a "clean slate" would then perceive the subject matter being documented. This was the same lens used to read Lords of Chaos, for example. Of course, there was nothing particularly new or different presented in either of these to people who are already immersed in the underground metal "culture", but it is still interesting to see the outside perspective.

Clearly, the people behind Darkthrone/Immortal are not spiritually motivated individuals (atleast now), but for many bands/artists black metal is and was a spiritually motivated form of artistic expression.

WREKage-Paul · Post by **WREKage-Paul** » Sat August 15th, 2009, 11:06 pm

Hmm, I thought the point that Varg was trying to make is that in the beginning, they were not Satanic per se, but they were anti-Christian. The two are NOT the same. And at least according to Varg, many, probably most of them were NOT 'atheists' in any sense.

They saw Christianity as being the usurper, overlaying the more ancient pagan beliefs (Thor, Odin, etc.) And FWIW, they're right about that.

I thought the movie was great. I have a few minor quibbles about editing and subtitling, but I'm reallly hoping for a DVD release. I've emailed Audrey (one of the directors/producers) about it, so hopefully I'll get back some good news.

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